Unified World Government

[Sétanta]

would it work with human nature?

who, and when will it happen, if ever?

i personally see America (witht the backing of the UN and EU) forming a quasi superstate in this century that sorta melts into the world government

[Handsome Huss]

would it work with human nature?

When there are no enemies left to fight, the warlike man will attack himself.

[Major König]

When there are no enemies left to fight, the warlike man will attack himself.

I believe that is sweet, simple, and correct. The world can never be united. There is always some left to fight. Always. The 'ruler' of the government will attack those 'unloyals' who will raise armies, who will fight, and continue fighting. There will never be peace in the world.

[SovietDoom]

I believe that is sweet, simple, and correct. The world can never be united. There is always some left to fight. Always. The 'ruler' of the government will attack those 'unloyals' who will raise armies, who will fight, and continue fighting. There will never be peace in the world.

Bull. We don't need wars to have meaning in our lives, we could just create some other great project. Like colonizing the stars. That would require all the nations of Earth to work together to achieve a great goal.

For the forseeable future it has abosolutely no chance of working, how can a world governmet based in say America deal with the problems of Indonesians villagers?

Who said it would be a tyranny of the minority? More likely, such a government would be a slightly more unified confederation, with manadatory elections and a united economy, and thats about it. Then, due to economic prosperity and democracy, the countries of the world would liberalize, thus creating a truly unified world state.

[Tom Paine]

Bull. We don't need wars to have meaning in our lives, we could just create some other great project. Like colonizing the stars. That would require all the nations of Earth to work together to achieve a great goal.

Something that so many different ideologies, religions, peoples, cultures etc cannot do... co-operation s a wonderful goal, but only works if all are willing, which isn't currently the case. Peaceful coexistance is a wonderful dream but currently no more.

[SovietDoom]

Edited my post.

Squeakus, this "Great Project" would come AFTER world government is achieved ( I stress the fact that it would be extremely decentralized), and thus would help to promote unity.

[alman9898]

World Government = 1984

[Removed_user_012521]

God I hope it never works. I don't want to pay taxes to people across the world and I doubt people across the world don't wan't to pay taxes to people hear. I want my leaders to be my nationalitie and no one else.

[Kanaric]

Separate countries can't/wont exist forever. Eventually it will probably be massive blocs (like the EU) and a FEW LARGE countries. By this time though I bet their would be a new colonialist fewver as far as space travel goes.

I definately do believe that this world will not even be united once we start colonizing other solar systems. It will just be more united than it is now..... thats about it.

God I hope it never works.

Hoping it never works is a bad thing. You should hope it does work, at least partially. I think its always healthy to have some kind of "enemy" or competition.

Eventualyl world alliances and globalism will unite the world. Its only a matter of time. Economics and corporations are more imporatant now than nationalism. Thats definately a fact.

[Slythis]

Separate countries can't/wont exist forever. Eventually it will probably be massive blocs (like the EU) and a FEW LARGE countries. By this time though I bet their would be a new colonialist fewver as far as space travel goes.

ah but now you've changed the whoel scale of things, assuming the Human race isn't wiped out before we begin traversing the universe, whole planets may eventually be united benethe a single flag and as time goes on a populations grow people on earth will no longer be able to afford to divide themselves and will be forced to unite or be crushed by one of the former colonies so yes, this world will one day be unified however this is really just a change in scale, planets against planets rather than countries against countries.

The better question perhaps is will the whole of Mankind ever be united under one government and the answer is no, it's against Human nature.

[Kanaric]

Their will be terrorists of course, some remnent nationalists and people of those types. I think the world will be united eventually but it wont be due to war or some dictatorship takeover. It will be from globalization..... economy even now, like i said, is more important than anything. Its certainly more important than fighting a war and more important than ideology.

Economies, money, and corporations will unite the world if anything does.

[Guderian]

For the forseeable future it has abosolutely no chance of working, how can a world governmet based in say America deal with the problems of Indonesians villagers? Today governments can bearly cater to the needs of thier own populations so what chance is there of a world government being able to cater to the needs of the world?

We would have to abolish the society we have now (based primarily on class and culture) in order for it to work.

[alman9898]

We would have to abolish the society we have now (based primarily on class and culture) in order for it to work.

No more Total War games, then.

[Tom Paine]

would it work with human nature?

No; we can't co-operate well enough, we can't avoid the warlike nature and need for superiority in us.

who, and when will it happen, if ever?

A united world government maybe made up based on a group of powers co-operating.... EU, US, India and China?

i personally see America (witht the backing of the UN and EU) forming a quasi superstate in this century that sorta melts into the world government

Nah, the US is hatred too much for that to work...

[Tom Paine]

yeah, but a single project would break world government as each semiautonomous part of said decentralised government pursued its own interests within the project to others detriment.

[SovietDoom]

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of an EU style government.

However, my theory is that economic and political unity will help to create some form of "pan-human" culture.

[Tom Paine]

Well, I was thinking more along the lines of an EU style government.

However, my theory is that economic and political unity will help to create some form of "pan-human" culture.

I'd like to point out the failure of the EU itself at being an EU-style government.... it wanted too much control.

[SovietDoom]

I know. I was thinking a more of an EC, just a tad more centralized, with a standard money supply and universal democratic institutions. This would take tie on the order of centuries, not just 100 years.

[Last Roman]

I can see it happening (though not for a very loooong time), but it will out of necessity rather than people wanting to happen.

[SovietDoom]

Either that or we get another Great Man, who through force of will and intelligence unites the world.

However, noting recent trends towards greater free-trade and democracy, I think a world government is going to happen whther we want it to or not.