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    Watch this video before commeting,please!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osZ5TvhiTZQ

    Its seven part Video.As my own comment on this:

    What i have read about Prophet Muhammads life i think that Muhammad just used religion to just an excuse of war to conquer lands and serve his own greatness.So far what i have read about Koran,i must admit that Muhammad just took The Holy Bibles writings and twisted the words to fit his own desires and needs,declaring himself as a spoke person of the God.He took the right to speak behalf of the God but in fact he spoke behalf of himself and his own egoistic desires.
    Knowing the start of islamic religion,its foundations and the word what it spreads,i say its religion of hate and violence.Muhammad,its religions founder based it on violence and nothing good ever comes of violence.
    Some of you might say thats the problem of radical islam but it is not.For an example when you look at the Great Britains islamic community then under the banner of spreading religion peacefully they do not do so but they sow hate.Its not possible to speak about word "peace" when it comes to islam cause when you read the Koran then it tells all that its everything else but peaceful.Muslims of Great Britain are not there to integrate,they do not take Britains social values as their own but they keep all their islamic point of views and seperate themselves from so called " Britain social valued people"

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    Very insightful but I already new this. I feel sorry the leftists who fail to see their errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clouse123456 View Post
    Very insightful but I already new this. I feel sorry the leftists who fail to see their errors.
    Aern't you a mexican? Dude, your people make up some of the most violent and psychopathic freaks that fill up america's prisons, and you are seriously gonna claim that american muslims are a threat?

    That is honestly ing hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pspguy123 View Post
    Aern't you a mexican? Dude, your people make up some of the most violent and psychopathic freaks that fill up america's prisons, and you are seriously gonna claim that american muslims are a threat?

    That is honestly ing hilarious.
    And it gets worse, its usually right wingers who discriminate and hate on Latin Americans.

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    Conservatives will destroy the US first. And by the time Islam would even have the power to impact America much, most will be atheists, just as Christians are quickly going atheist.

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    And it gets worse, its usually right wingers who discriminate and hate on Latin Americans.
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    how about everyone used religion as a way to power

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    how about everyone used religion as a way to power

    k?
    Except that it is in their holy text book. It tells them to go out and expand their religion by force if necessary.

    In the Second testament Jesus didn't go around telling people join my religion or ill kill you and it isnt in the new testament either. But im going to be fair on the holy book matter.
    I personally believe that the Koran and the bible have distortions in them to benefit some of the authors of some of them.
    The bible is a tricky one It is a compilation of many books that were selected then put into one big book. Including alot of the old Jewish books known to Christians as the old testament. Theres no telling how many translation errors are in the bible or how many "added" things were done to the bible by several people over years. Who knows maybe somebody wanted to alter the original words by a word or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    Watch this video before commeting,please!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osZ5TvhiTZQ

    Its seven part Video.As my own comment on this:

    What i have read about Prophet Muhammads life i think that Muhammad just used religion to just an excuse of war to conquer lands and serve his own greatness.So far what i have read about Koran,i must admit that Muhammad just took The Holy Bibles writings and twisted the words to fit his own desires and needs,declaring himself as a spoke person of the God.He took the right to speak behalf of the God but in fact he spoke behalf of himself and his own egoistic desires.
    Knowing the start of islamic religion,its foundations and the word what it spreads,i say its religion of hate and violence.Muhammad,its religions founder based it on violence and nothing good ever comes of violence.
    Some of you might say thats the problem of radical islam but it is not.For an example when you look at the Great Britains islamic community then under the banner of spreading religion peacefully they do not do so but they sow hate.Its not possible to speak about word "peace" when it comes to islam cause when you read the Koran then it tells all that its everything else but peaceful.Muslims of Great Britain are not there to integrate,they do not take Britains social values as their own but they keep all their islamic point of views and seperate themselves from so called " Britain social valued people"
    Personally I agree with you all the way. I mean the history part. I think that this Prophet Mohammed gave in too selfish desires.
    Have you ever heard or read that one story where Jesus is tempted by the devil out in the desert for 40 days and 40 nights.The the devil tempts jesus with power,money conquest everything all in exchange for Jesus's faith in God and forsake him.Jesus did not fall for temptation of power and conquest. I think that this Mohamed guy failed and was tempted by the devil. Which is the only way I could explain anything in the Koran. Vile stuff really.

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    In the Second testament Jesus didn't go around telling people join my religion or ill kill you and it isnt in the new testament either. But im going to be fair on the holy book matter.
    well im not really a big fan of the hell thing you know? seems like scaring people into joining your religion

    i mean its horrible

    http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell

    but enough about christianity?
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    I've watched the first two parts and I can't take anymore of it. Not only is the video's description of the Arab conquests in the past very unacademic, laughable in terms of bias, but the rest goes on and on about either radical Muslims overseas, as in not in America, or fringe radical Muslims in the United States. It fails to provide any objectivity.

    I mean, just look at the uploader's comments on the videos. He's ignorant, offensive, and an idiot.

    Look how angry these Muslims are at Andrew Zimmern!

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    Could you watch the whole documentary before giving judgement? I think the part that you might be seeking for is at the end of the documentary,somewhere third and fourth part.

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    If a "documentary" can't get the basic background information and historical narrative correct, why should any intelligent, objective observer expect correct conclusions to be drawn at the end?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    Could you watch the whole documentary before giving judgement? I think the part that you might be seeking for is at the end of the documentary,somewhere third and fourth part.

    I could watch the whole documentary but then I'd be wasting my time. Basically everything they say is either an exaggeration, poor generalization, sensationalist, or...well-known information that's not a shock, at least to me.

    Yes, there is a problem with radical/fundamentalist Islam in the world. That's obvious. Have we been attacked by it? Yes. Have we responded? Yes. We invaded two Muslim nations. Is the United States going to become an Islamic nation with Sharia law? No. That's ludicrous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Rahl View Post
    I could watch the whole documentary but then I'd be wasting my time. Basically everything they say is either an exaggeration, poor generalization, sensationalist, or...well-known information that's not a shock, at least to me.
    You haven't even watched the video but presume to know the worth of all of it's content. How ignorant. Oh well, perhaps you should leave this thread for those willing to think beyond their preconceptions.

    Quote Originally Posted by NotYetRegistered
    how about everyone used religion as a way to power

    k?
    It's different when the FOUNDER of a religion does it though isn't it? For instance Christ didn't rise to power, he died for what he did, and at no point encouraged or incited violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CamilleBonparte View Post
    You haven't even watched the video but presume to know the worth of all of it's content. How ignorant. Oh well, perhaps you should leave this thread for those willing to think beyond their preconceptions.
    Christ..
    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Rahl
    I've watched the first two parts and I can't take anymore of it. Not only is the video's description of the Arab conquests in the past very unacademic, laughable in terms of bias


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    Quote Originally Posted by CamilleBonparte View Post
    You haven't even watched the video but presume to know the worth of all of it's content. How ignorant. Oh well, perhaps you should leave this thread for those willing to think beyond their preconceptions.



    It's different when the FOUNDER of a religion does it though isn't it? For instance Christ didn't rise to power, he died for what he did, and at no point encouraged or incited violence.
    But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one." (Luke 22:36 NASB)
    "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. ." (Matthew 10:34-39 NASB)
    Sounds pretty violent to me.
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    I think Camille also missed the bit where Jesus went and violently threw the moneylenders' tables while condemning their operators to hell and whatnot.

    Gotta love some historical revisionism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panic View Post
    So far what i have read about Koran
    here's your problem.

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