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    Icon13 Murderer pleas guilty for 49th murder.

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110218/...n_river_killer

    Convicted for 49 murders, and has confessed dozens more. There are commanders in the middle ages that are responsible for less deaths that this man. I mean, he may have killed close to 100 women (71+)!

    I'm against death penalty on principle, so I don't support his execution. On the other hand, if he was executed I can't say that I would object.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Le...idgway_Victims

    16 years girls in the victims. Almost 50 women in the early 80s. Which girl was travelling alone in Seatle in 1984 after dozens of murdered women have turned up in the woods?
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    Well he really is too dangerous to live. The only reason I oppose the death penalty is because someone could be wrongly convicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irelandeb View Post
    Well he really is too dangerous to live. The only reason I oppose the death penalty is because someone could be wrongly convicted.

    With a job like that who can blame him?
    I dont think there is the slightest chance of this not being the right guy.

    Quote Originally Posted by justicar5 View Post
    What punishment is death? Your not aware of anything, solitary confinement for life, thats punishment.

    its not about punishment, its about whats best for society, kill him, he is to dangerous to be in the prison system, these kinds of people do not deserve life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenician2112 View Post


    its not about punishment, its about whats best for society, kill him, he is to dangerous to be in the prison system, these kinds of people do not deserve life.

    Well theres also the consideration that I do not want the state killing in a premeditated manner a person who is at the time defenceless. Bad habbit to be forming that.

    Oh and it SHOULD be about punishment, not per se of this man, but as a deterant, there are some crimes that are beyond the pale, this is one of them, and that should be made abundantly clear, in a cold and clear manner, that anyone considering it can look forward to decades of nothing but the sight of the same walls, and the sound of their own voice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenician2112 View Post
    its not about punishment, its about whats best for society, kill him, he is to dangerous to be in the prison system
    Actually, it is this man who is in danger in the prison system, considering the nature of his crimes, and the fact that even when not murdering he was a finicky and power-tripping hypocritical :wub:. Look what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer in prison. This maggot doesn't stand a chance, that's why he's in solitary confinement, so nobody else can beat or stab him to death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    Actually, it is this man who is in danger in the prison system, considering the nature of his crimes, and the fact that even when not murdering he was a finicky and power-tripping hypocritical :wub:. Look what happened to Jeffrey Dahmer in prison. This maggot doesn't stand a chance, that's why he's in solitary confinement, so nobody else can beat or stab him to death.

    to quote Clancy.. Armed robbers make perfectly clear their opinions of the killers of women and children.

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    God damn thats alot of people.




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    This is one of those things that we should bring back burning at the stake for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I'm against death penalty on principle, so I don't support his execution. On the other hand, if he was executed I can't say that I would object.
    Wait you mean you're cool with the death penalty in certain cases? Good to know, because it's never applied as a rule. Merely a possibility for certain crimes. Looks like you see eye to eye with the government and the people that support it after all.

    Remember kids, you're against the death penalty. Except when you're not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Wait you mean you're cool with the death penalty in certain cases? Good to know, because it's never applied as a rule. Merely a possibility for certain crimes. Looks like you see eye to eye with the government and the people that support it after all.

    Remember kids, you're against the death penalty. Except when you're not.
    I'm not an American and I don't think the state should ever have the right to execute a citizen, even if he or she is judged by his/her peers.
    I didn't say I'm cool with death penalty in certain cases, I said that in certain cases, I wouldn't object.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alhoon View Post
    I'm not an American and I don't think the state should ever have the right to execute a citizen, even if he or she is judged by his/her peers.
    I didn't say I'm cool with death penalty in certain cases, I said that in certain cases, I wouldn't object.
    That means you're for the death penalty. If you can think of a reason someone should die, under any circumstances, you're for the death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Border Patrol View Post
    If you can think of a reason someone should die, under any circumstances, you're for the death penalty.
    There are still cases where a person will think the former, but still wouldn't believe in the death penalty, but for reasons that different from the aspect of killing someone. Believing the state should have the authority to take the life of specific convicted criminals does is not something that automatically follows when you believe that some people should or deserve to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strelok View Post
    There are still cases where a person will think the former, but still wouldn't believe in the death penalty, but for reasons that different from the aspect of killing someone. Believing the state should have the authority to take the life of specific convicted criminals does is not something that automatically follows when you believe that some people should or deserve to die.
    Yes it does. It literally cant be anything but that. Your actually saying that the belief in 1 does not equal belief in 2

    1) The state should have the authority to take the life of convicted criminals

    2) The state should have the authority to take the life of convicted criminals

    They literally dont differ whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidin View Post
    Wait you mean you're cool with the death penalty in certain cases? Good to know, because it's never applied as a rule. Merely a possibility for certain crimes. Looks like you see eye to eye with the government and the people that support it after all.

    Remember kids, you're against the death penalty. Except when you're not.
    I am against the death penalty except in cases of war crimes and crimes against humanity, that have been tried at the International Courts of Justice, or an acreditied war crimes tribunaral.

    Him spending the rest of his miserable life in solitary confinement, wiothout visitor rights of any kind, only visitor allowed being medical professionals to make sure he lives to a ripe old age, no books, no tv, nothing but a cell for the rest of his life.
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    Some people aren't worthy of life. If it were up to me half the world would be dead.

    Thats probably why its not up to me.

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    c'mon man, the article says he was just killing drug addicts and prostitutes.




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    This guy should be broken on the wheel and left to rot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_wheel

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    Quote Originally Posted by boofhead View Post
    This guy should be broken on the wheel and left to rot.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breaking_wheel
    Hey boof, don't be so cruel, that's torture, not justice!

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    My grandfather who is extremely pro- life, part of the life is sacred crowd, and who worked as a cop in the South Bronx has told me even he is split on the death penalty. Because even though he believes that we shouldn't kill just to get back at someone, he has seen murders, and serial killers who would never be able to be rehabilitated, and certainly deserve death. So I guess this makes me also question whether it would be ethical or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lord o kelly View Post
    My grandfather who is extremely pro- life, part of the life is sacred crowd, and who worked as a cop in the South Bronx has told me even he is split on the death penalty. Because even though he believes that we shouldn't kill just to get back at someone, he has seen murders, and serial killers who would never be able to be rehabilitated, and certainly deserve death. So I guess this makes me also question whether it would be ethical or not.
    I'm pro-life also, but being pro-life doesn't mean a person is anti-justice. An adult makes his own choices in life, and if the law says he must die for his crimes, then that is that. The sentences in my country should be toughened.

    e.g. you steal once, you get let off with a stern warning.
    you steal twice, you get flogged and released.
    you steal thrice, you get flogged and a big ''T'' branded on your forehead as a message to all.
    you steal four times, you hang.

    I don't think prisons are even necessary except for holding people pre-trial. They're a waste of money and basically crime schools.

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