Ships, Armor Upgrades and CTD

**rebelyell2006** · February 17, 2011, 03:19 PM

I've discovered a bizarre CTD. When I add armor upgrades to ships in EDU, and try to go back in through certain saved campaign games, the game will CTD with the "unspecified error" message. But I can start a new campaign and have no problems, and certain campaign games will not have this CTD problem. Is there a reason for this?

EDIT:
To be more specific, I gave longboats an armor upgrade. Previous campaigns (Milan, Ottomen, Portugal, Papal Estates) load without problems. I can start a new campaign without problems (even Danish campaigns are problem-free). But when I start my saved Danish campaign, I get the CTD.

EDIT2:
I disbanded my native Danish ships from my campaign, saved, and still I get a CTD.

EDIT3:
I think this is purely a Danish ship/campaign problem. I gave armor upgrades to war galleys, loaded my Portuguese saved campaign and was able to upgrade the armor on the Portuguese ships. However, the Danish campaign still CTD if the only ship getting armor upgrades is the war galley. If no ships can get armor upgrades, the Danish campaign loads without problems, but if even one ship has armor upgrades the game CTD.

EDIT4:
Normally I can adjust items in the EDU and EDB in middle of a campaign and have no problems. Should I assume that the Danish campaign in question was corrupted at some point?

**Squid** · February 17, 2011, 05:18 PM

There is a known CTD regarding ships and armour upgrades in buildings. If you have a ship in the recruitment queue and the building gets upgraded and the new building level changes the experience of the ship in the recruitment queue a CTD will result.

**rebelyell2006** · February 17, 2011, 05:37 PM

Well, I do not have any ships at this point and I have nothing in my queues that are related to ships or armor. I do have pre-existing naval academies and blacksmiths. And the only unit I changed in the EDU is the longboat, and my faction is the only faction allowed to recruit longboats. Should I just write off this campaign as corrupted and start over, as I do not know what England is doing with its recruitment pools?

EDIT:

There is something wrong with that campaign beyond the EDU, as I gave the walls an additional recruitment slot in the EDB and that specific campaign CTD while loading. So the campaign itself is corrupted.

**irishron** · February 17, 2011, 06:52 PM

You're right, it's not savegame compatible. It needs a new campaign.

**rebelyell2006** · February 17, 2011, 06:56 PM

But it was save-game compatible with my other campaigns.

**irishron** · February 17, 2011, 06:59 PM

Can your Danes recruit longboats?

**rebelyell2006** · February 17, 2011, 07:04 PM

When I clicked the "continue campaign" button, it would show the loading screen for about half a second before giving me an "unspecified error" message before CTD. The campaign would not load at all. That problem does not occur with my other campaigns, and I can load and play and use my blacksmiths to upgrade ship armor without problems. I do not experience the CTD when I restore the EDU to the way it was before I added armor upgrades to the EDU. The Danish campaign game file is corrupted.

**irishron** · February 17, 2011, 07:10 PM

It would not be the first one.

Whenever I do something like this I delete the map.rwm and start a new campaign. I've been had too many times by things not savegame compatible.

**rebelyell2006** · February 17, 2011, 07:24 PM

I deleted the map.rwm, and with the game in windowed mode I watched the maps/base folder while clicking on "continue campaign." As soon as it finished generating the new map.rwm, it CTD. So I'll just delete the campaign and start over. I guess this thread could be closed as the file is corrupted.

EDIT:
I started a new campaign, and using cheats built the smiths, ports and admiralties and alternated them with recruitment of ships and the ships came out and upgraded as expected, and I did not suffer any CTD. So the file was corrupted.