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    Icon9 This is rediculous...

    Take a look at the screen, the year, and especially the difference between my "roman empire" and some persian peasants on horses calling themselves parthia..... if it weren't for me they'd controll the entire planet

    I thought this would be fixed in patch 2.1 more or less..... But seriously... THAT many armies??? I don't see the fun in that. How can a eastern empire without a big sea as the medditerenean make that much money.... Im having a real hard time protecting my borders from the scythians and now the parthians keep sending armies as you can see. And not just that corner.. no they do the same with the ptolemies... I thought the start of the roman campaign was hard

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    0 Turn is just stupid imo. I know some folks like it, but it's just too much.

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    One of the major risks when playing a 0-turn campaign, mounted cav based factions are given a huge advantage as they can spawn a ridiculous amount of stacks of HA as they don't have effective infantry. You can probably tell that as Scythia, Sarmatia and Parthia are hogging the eastern side of you campaign map.

    This is the very reason why I never play 0-turn with the Romans. Without mercenaries, they're hopeless.
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    Alright thanks for the push in the right direction there
    But you guys just watch this screen very closely... cause the next time you will see the original historical roman empire like you've never seen! 0 turn. And yes ive been playing this one since last november so i know what it is to be patient

    As for the "founding fathers" of this RS2 mod, at least make the cataphracts a little bit more expensive next time
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    Yeah personally I always play 1-turn. 0-turn is a bit overwhelming.

    How can a eastern empire without a big sea as the medditerenean make that much money....
    Black Sea? And it looks like they have borders on the Mediterranean as well. Mesopotamia was a very rich province in real life and in RS2.

    As for the "founding fathers" of this RS2 mod, at least make the cataphracts a little bit more expensive next time
    Cavalry is less expensive to get the AI to recruit them.
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    Don't you like a real challange? I know it's gonna be loooooooooooooooooong before you take them out, but this basically lets you test just how good you are with not just the military aspect of the game, but also a more logistical side concerning planning and troop amassing near the frontiers. I mean I hope you don't just have 1 stack to defend Byzantion right, there should be at least 3 with reinforcements etc..

    Also, think about it. What would you rather see? An all elite infantry+cata army of armenia or seleucids? What I do find shocking is that your campaign has been <120 turns right? (start 637 AUC...I kinda forgot since I play seleucids and they start in 537 SE ...i'm not sure though) which might be a bit too fast, but then again will this happen every campaign? Edit: so i noticed campaign actually starts at 536AUC so this is quite far in your campaign, with around 300 turns I don't mind to see 1 superpower really...It's much more challenging than facing several small factions that also fight eachother than 1 that only fights you..

    I like 0-turn campaign except that they should make more elite units 1 turn recruited and cata/ha more expensive both in upkeep and recruitment cost, but that's just my opinion.
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    If you play that long something like that is bound to happen.

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    but still its a serious threat from HA owning factions like parthia/sycthia ........ YES THE CAVALRY IS CHEAP FOR AI TO RECRUIT THEM ...... but cant they make it a little bit more expensive for these HA owning factions ...... sometimes they just feel GOD LIKE ......i too had exactly same problem in my campaign some 10 yrs after this and i had already entered Pergamon Territory's ........
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    I like it, In RS I see alot more cav and more balanced stacks than with most other mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    I like it, In RS I see alot more cav and more balanced stacks than with most other mods.
    yes that's the best aspect of RS definitely tht there are always atleast 4 cavalry per stack ....... what im mentioning is for all this horse based factions ..... well i know they are horse based factions and supposed to have many HA but thats when they are around steppes ..... not all the way up here ..... sometimes it just gets annoying to fight a stack full of HA with your legions ...... i mean maintaining ideal legion composition .......
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    lol I kill this many stacks each turn....

    just bring 8-10 legions and roflpwn them, dont forget to have reinforcments to fill in for loses

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    How can a eastern empire without a big sea as the medditerenean make that much money....
    hmm - ok there have been already mentioned the black sea which surely ain't that big as the mediteranean but as they do have access to the med it's evening out to a little bit.

    Since your question looks more like being generally than only RTW related - they got the silk road to trade with china and then there's this tiny little piece of water to their southern end where all the bad guys are suspected to be nowadays and if i'm not totally wrong it leads directly into another piece of water where the mediteranean ain't worth to be compared with (when talking about size off course).

    Also don't forget them indians to the south-southeast who could be used for trade aswell here.

    Those persians weren't some poor beggars but really rich and they had their hands on lots of tradings.

    So not that unrealistic what you experienced there in your campaign.

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    No no no!Maintain flexibility, in the east use more archers and cav etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    No no no!Maintain flexibility, in the east use more archers and cav etc..
    well that's wt i start to do finally when these HA factions make me bang my head like nerZhulen's ....... bt neways i still feel a little bad doing it ...... its kinda my rules to use exact legionary composition ...... well although in my campign somehow i was lucky as easter section rebelled ...... and they bordered with parthia ..... and they crushed them ...... sending them back ..... while i was on the other end reconquering my lost land .......
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    This is from Five Good Emperors and its 1 Turn...
    but still a few Armys around...not to mention all those who are not on the screen deep in Parthia marching towards the border...
    some nailbiting fun I say...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferdiad View Post
    If you feel bad about it, just think of Crassus against the Parthians.
    Crassus was an old blind fool .......

    Quote Originally Posted by chris10 View Post
    This is from Five Good Emperors and its 1 Turn...
    but still a few Armys around...not to mention all those who are not on the screen deep in Parthia marching towards the border...
    some nailbiting fun I say...
    it definately looks good ...... is it after the rebellion ???? or you are yet to get one ??? ...... caz if you end up loosing west in rebellion ...... thn would be something crazy ....... with parthians at border and those roman brothers thirsty for your blood ........ would be a good chalange ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by the.phoenix View Post
    it definately looks good ...... is it after the rebellion ???? or you are yet to get one ??? ...... caz if you end up loosing west in rebellion ...... thn would be something crazy ....... with parthians at border and those roman brothers thirsty for your blood ........ would be a good chalange ....
    This is short before the Rebellion......the key is not to blitz and have Citys properly developed so they can support you with qualified allied troops or retrain your numbeed Legions during the Rebellion...Iam developing a script right now which will maintain the Players head over the water and not allow for negative treasury...In exchange I will raise experience of the spawned Rebel Legions and the amount of spawned Rebel City Garrisons...
    I hope this will make any kind of Rebellion (even the ones where Player looses most Settlements) worth playing and maybe even raise the fun factor considerably...

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    Quote Originally Posted by the.phoenix View Post
    it definately looks good ...... is it after the rebellion ???? or you are yet to get one ??? ...... caz if you end up loosing west in rebellion ...... thn would be something crazy ....... with parthians at border and those roman brothers thirsty for your blood ........ would be a good chalange ....
    hey that was pic from MY campaign ,

    here is few years later, with rebelion allready suppressed
    now seriously, Im fighting aproximetly 2-3 parthian and 1-2 armenian full stack each turn last 40 years
    Armenia is not so hot anymore since I took a lot from them but parthia is still attacking a lot

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    If you feel bad about it, just think of Crassus against the Parthians.

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    I'll have to port that script over to my install when you do it, It sounds nice.
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