Where does mordor get there big armys?

[hochmeister devin]

Okay in my gondor campaigh i started after i took osgiliath every 5 turns morder attacks it with 2 full stacks i always manage to beat them but i never have enough men left to advance having to through not have enough money to do anything. Am i doing somthing wrong or does morder always get hugh army htis fast. it really sucks rohan doesn't help so isengards hiting me fromthe rear hard from the south and mordor form the east so im make about 200-500 money per turn what should i do?

[Broke1980]

Pray for the evil God of army spawning script to stop.
Or offer your sister as a sacrifice. Might help too.
If you don't have a sister, try playing on medium campaign difficulty.

[Belkar]

Or you should build a stronger economy in the beggining.

[Túrin_Turambar]

Pray for the evil God of army spawning script to stop.
Or offer your sister as a sacrifice. Might help too. Thats my advice!
If you don't have a sister, try playing on medium campaign difficulty... Mister.

...just trollin a bit

[Mikail Mengsk]

If you don't have a sister, try playing on medium campaign difficulty.

Doesn't change anything about that "problem".

Problem is moneyscript, that usually leads to stackspam by certain factions. In older version was much worse, anyway, i think in 2.1 is no more such a problem.

[Broke1980]

Doesn't change anything about that "problem".

Problem is moneyscript, that usually leads to stackspam by certain factions. In older version was much worse, anyway, i think in 2.1 is no more such a problem.

Dude, I wanted to refer the mod you made that modifies some of Baron Samedi's work, but couldn't find it anywhere (ok, I didn't search more than 2-3 minutes).
Anyway, that might address his issues.

[Mikail Mengsk]

Dude, I wanted to refer the mod you made that modifies some of Baron Samedi's work, but couldn't find it anywhere (ok, I didn't search more than 2-3 minutes).
Anyway, that might address his issues.

I only have developed this minimod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417117

It adds 1 turn to every unit to be trained, so it cuts down stackspam, but i also modified other files (campaign_script) so i don't know if i didn't encountered stackspam because of the extra turn recruitment or because of the campaing_script modifications. Sure in 150 turns i didn't see ANY stackspam and that's good.

[Broke1980]

I only have developed this minimod: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417117

It adds 1 turn to every unit to be trained, so it cuts down stackspam, but i also modified other files (campaign_script) so i don't know if i didn't encountered stackspam because of the extra turn recruitment or because of the campaing_script modifications. Sure in 150 turns i didn't see ANY stackspam and that's good.

There we go.

[William the Silent]

It took me 200 turns to figure it out in my first campaign on M/M.
Perseverance.

[zowrath]

When I last played Gondor I sent out three diplomats to make trade agreements fast. I hit Mordor with everything I got, besieged Minas Morgul and asked for a truce which they accepted for some gold. Then I sent three assassins to constantly sabotage Mordor's settlements close to me. This had the effect of Mordor sending troops up towards the Silvan elves and they had to divert resources to repairing. Knowing it would only be a matter of time, more precise after the fall of Edoras, before Mordor would most certainly come for me again I sent 2/3-stack of Militias over to camp Edoras stepping in to protect when necessary.

All this gave me some breeding room, and it is easy enough to hold Harad at bay while building up economic structures. And you can pretty much hold off Harad with militia troops for a long time. Building up a strong economy fast, is pretty much the key to any start.

[Lord Butters I]

Take Minas Morgul asap. That way Mordor's attacks always come at the same spot and you can focus on fortifying it as opposed to an entire front, and will free you up to take Ithillian.

[Toho]

doesn't getting East-Osigiliath pretty much secure your borders and giving you enough time to build up a good economy?

[zowrath]

doesn't getting East-Osigiliath pretty much secure your borders and giving you enough time to build up a good economy?

It can, but you'll be having a harder time with it as both Mordor and Harad will be closing in on you. Plugging Minas Morgul lets you concentrate on Harad really. And I can't stress enough how great assassins are for disrupting Mordor's, or anyone's, unit building. Sabotage what you can when you can And, striking a truce with Mordor if possible will give you a great breather for some time.

[W1Z21]

simply disable the garrison script.. bam! alot easier

[Ryou]

I played many gondor campaigns. I think you have a lot of generals as gondor, so group most of your generals together (about 12) and send them out into mordor territory for a diversion attack. Mordor’s foot soldiers cannot catch up to you if they’re stronger than you and you can just whip them if they’re weaker. In several more turns you should be making more money. Usually in my gondor campaigns I send half a stack into Rohan to help them out against Isenguard. That half stack makes a big difference in the war at the north. And what do you know, maybe you can even ambush Isengard (the city) while their armies are attacking Rohan!

[Russian Gondor]

They get 1 free stack of Uruks and Olog's once you enter the Black Lands, once you finish that and if you have siege engines it is easy.

[Thefallenhun]

I just disable the script, a challenge is one thing, but an overwhelming advantage like that is just frustrating to me, and I wouldn't mind it so uch if I weren't so gos darn poor all th tmie, one of the things I love about M2 is building up my economy quite strongly, but I feel like TATW doesn't give you as many options for expanding your eoconomy

[BeingOwned:)SPQR]

Also, the FAQ has the solution.
Money Script

a.k.a DAZ DA AI PUL MONI AUT OV ITS A$S?!1?!!?@?!?!

[JinShepard]

Seeing somethings about assasins but my assasins have a succes chance of about 25% on EVERYTHING they come across, basicly from turn 1, how in blazes can you make them effective if they die all the time?

[zowrath]

Seeing somethings about assasins but my assasins have a succes chance of about 25% on EVERYTHING they come across, basicly from turn 1, how in blazes can you make them effective if they die all the time?

Easy. If you are at war, just spam them. Some will die off and some will become better. Or even better, once you get a rebel army camping in your territory you get a free training place for your spies and assassins without the risk of angering someone in to war.

Once you've got a few points on their skill go sabotage buildings. They gain skills through the Conspirator-trait as well. Sabotage buildings is a sure way to halt an enemy advance. It is so easy once you get 4+ assassins that are well trained.

Combine that with 3-4 good spies and you can cause a revolt in some cities as they can not build new soldiers and their population will get angry because the buildings you level. In the end it rebels, and you can swoop in and take it. Without even declaring war

The Thieve's guild seem to increase the starter stat of assassins as well. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, agents are very powerful tools in warfare. Even diplomats. Park a diplomat outside a city of an enemy that is likely to attack you and try to sue for a truce if they attack. It'll hold for a few turns, making you able to get a defence up and running.

All in all, brute force ain't always the best way to go about things