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    Default Right wing.

    I do not know if this is the right place to post this, but it causes me worry and sometime doubt. I believe I maybe a far-rightist. I mean, now is this a problem that compares to others? Absolutely not, however it is a problem to me which causes me much thought.

    I do like the idea of a single party state, perhaps even a national party which does not affiliate with a specific ideology but the people and the state itself. I do enjoy the thrill of revolution and political turmoil, and perhaps even would like to cause it (hypothetically speaking here of course.) I also find myself being extremely military interested and influenced.

    Anyone care to discuss with me or offer advice? If this is in the wrong place, surely move it.
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    Post your opinions on important subjects so that we can get a better picture. ''Far-Rightist'' can mean anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    So by far right you mean socialist-->communist?

    That's unorthodox.
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    revolutions are generally caused by Left-Wingers since its mostly Right thats in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post
    So by far right you mean socialist-->communist?

    That's unorthodox.
    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    revolutions are generally caused by Left-Wingers since its mostly Right thats in power.
    I believe in using revolution as a possible tool to achieve power and then cement power in the state and the people.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Croccer View Post
    Post your opinions on important subjects so that we can get a better picture. ''Far-Rightist'' can mean anything.
    I do not adhere to many principles of Fascism such as the racism and such. However I find myself believing that a single party state would be much more effective and could easily bring myself to implement it if ever given a chance.

    As I stated before, the military is something I hold in high regard in my own country (the United States) and in foreign nations, however I do believe in the superiority of our military. I believe that social abnormalities can be corrected by merely having an idealized type of leader who can develop a cult of personality.

    I think a single leader who holds ultimate power should make all the decisions based upon the unicameral legislature which generalizes and moderates the peoples overall beliefs. I believe that yes, a dictatorship of sorts is completely necessary to see a state succeed in some cases.

    When it comes to a matter of social based issues, I believe entirely that I am liberal, such as being pro-choice and letting people decide for themselves on most things, however things such as smoking and excessive drinking are more of a problem then a solution and I would do whatever I could to curb that or make it looked down upon.

    Economically I believe in the state only taking a role in failing industries which are essential and having a close relationship with the corporations yet somehow remaining unbiased and separate from them.

    That really the important issues that come off the top of my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK23 View Post
    lol



    I believe in using revolution as a possible tool to achieve power and then cement power in the state and the people.



    I do not adhere to many principles of Fascism such as the racism and such. However I find myself believing that a single party state would be much more effective and could easily bring myself to implement it if ever given a chance.

    As I stated before, the military is something I hold in high regard in my own country (the United States) and in foreign nations, however I do believe in the superiority of our military. I believe that social abnormalities can be corrected by merely having an idealized type of leader who can develop a cult of personality.

    I think a single leader who holds ultimate power should make all the decisions based upon the unicameral legislature which generalizes and moderates the peoples overall beliefs. I believe that yes, a dictatorship of sorts is completely necessary to see a state succeed in some cases.

    When it comes to a matter of social based issues, I believe entirely that I am liberal, such as being pro-choice and letting people decide for themselves on most things, however things such as smoking and excessive drinking are more of a problem then a solution and I would do whatever I could to curb that or make it looked down upon.

    Economically I believe in the state only taking a role in failing industries which are essential and having a close relationship with the corporations yet somehow remaining unbiased and separate from them.

    That really the important issues that come off the top of my head.
    Sounds a bit like Pinochet or Napoleon III's policies.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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    What would you do about the jews?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    What would you do about the jews?
    lol. I do not have any specific problem with religion except that it should be second to the state.
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    Hmmm...you might be a fascist.

    Cult of personality,balance in economy,militarianism,strong rejections of some things you don't like (smoking etc.),totalitarianism.

    Yep,fascist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShockBlast View Post
    Hmmm...you might be a fascist.

    Cult of personality,balance in economy,militarianism,strong rejections of some things you don't like (smoking etc.),totalitarianism.

    Yep,fascist.
    Thats not entirely a bad thing...right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK23 View Post
    Thats not entirely a bad thing...right?
    No mate.

    The Nazis where the ones with killing jews not the fascists but prepare yourself for some spam from people who don't know the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CK23 View Post
    Thats not entirely a bad thing...right?
    It is. Remember it's real people you want to force these things on. Would you be comfortable with pointing a gun at someone yourself to make sure society looks the way you want it?

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    Mussolini was a fascist, and he was Hitlers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    Mussolini was a fascist, and he was Hitlers
    lol, as I stated before I do not adhere to all the principles of fascism.
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    I understand, just busting balls.
    I had the same phase too after watching Starship Troopers (lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    I understand, just busting balls.
    I had the same phase too after watching Starship Troopers (lol).
    Try reading it. Good system of government from the book itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CK23 View Post

    I do like the idea of a single party state, perhaps even a national party which does not affiliate with a specific ideology but the people and the state itself. I do enjoy the thrill of revolution and political turmoil, and perhaps even would like to cause it (hypothetically speaking here of course.) I also find myself being extremely military interested and influenced.
    Then I suggest you play this http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...77#post8989377 the link has a linkdawg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augment View Post
    I understand, just busting balls.
    I had the same phase too after watching Starship Troopers (lol).
    lol. I havent watched star ship troopers in a long time...therefore...I dont think that's it. I don't know, I was just hoping someone could shed some light on things.

    Quote Originally Posted by Caliph of Phoenix View Post
    Then I suggest you play this http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...77#post8989377 the link has a linkdawg
    Thanks.
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    Stranger in a strange land is even better, it started A belief system like Scientology but not a scam...
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    I would recommend Louis Napoleon III's Napoleonic Ideas, a manifest in which he details his enlightened monarchical rule of France should he come to power. Very interesting and informative. You can find it on Google books IIRC.
    Quote Originally Posted by A.J.P. Taylor
    Peaceful agreement and government by consent are possible only on the basis of ideas common to all parties; and these ideas must spring from habit and from history. Once reason is introduced, every man, every class, every nation becomes a law unto itself; and the only right which reason understands is the right of the stronger. Reason formulates universal principles and is therefore intolerant: there can be only one rational society, one rational nation, ultimately one rational man. Decisions between rival reasons can be made only by force.





    Quote Originally Posted by H.L Spieghel
    Is het niet hogelijk te verwonderen, en een recht beklaaglijke zaak, Heren, dat alhoewel onze algemene Dietse taal een onvermengde, sierlijke en verstandelijke spraak is, die zich ook zo wijd als enige talen des werelds verspreidt, en die in haar bevang veel rijken, vorstendommen en landen bevat, welke dagelijks zeer veel kloeke en hooggeleerde verstanden uitleveren, dat ze nochtans zo zwakkelijk opgeholpen en zo weinig met geleerdheid verrijkt en versiert wordt, tot een jammerlijk hinder en nadeel des volks?
    Quote Originally Posted by Miel Cools
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen,
    Oud ben maar nog niet verrot.
    Zoals oude bomen zingen,
    Voor Jan Lul of voor hun god.
    Ook een oude boom wil reizen,
    Bij een bries of bij een storm.
    Zelfs al zit zijn kruin vol luizen,
    Zelfs al zit zijn voet vol worm.
    Als ik oud ben wil ik zingen.

    Cò am Fear am measg ant-sluaigh,
    A mhaireas buan gu bràth?
    Chan eil sinn uileadh ach air chuart,
    Mar dhìthein buaile fàs,
    Bheir siantannan na bliadhna sìos,
    'S nach tog a' ghrian an àird.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jörg Friedrich
    When do I stop being a justified warrior? When I've killed a million bad civilians? When I've killed three million bad civilians? According to a warsimulation by the Pentagon in 1953 the entire area of Russia would've been reduced to ruins with 60 million casualties. All bad Russians. 60 million bad guys. By how many million ''bad'' casualties do I stop being a knight of justice? Isn't that the question those knights must ask themselves? If there's no-one left, and I remain as the only just one,

    Then I'm God.
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis Napoleon III, Des Idees Napoleoniennes
    Governments have been established to aid society to overcome the obstacles which impede its march. Their forms have been varied according to the problems they have been called to cure, and according to character of the people they have ruled over. Their task never has been, and never will be easy, because the two contrary elements, of which our existence and the nature of society is composed, demand the employment of different means. In view of our divine essence, we need only liberty and work; in view of our mortal nature, we need for our direction a guide and a support. A government is not then, as a distinguished economist has said, a necessary ulcer; it is rather the beneficent motive power of all social organisation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfgang Held
    I walked into those baracks [of Buchenwald concentrationcamp], in which there were people on the three-layered bunkbeds. But only their eyes were alive. Emaciated, skinny figures, nothing more but skin and bones. One thinks that they are dead, because they did not move. Only the eyes. I started to cry. And then one of the prisoners came, stood by me for a while, put a hand on my shoulder and said to me, something that I will never forget: ''Tränen sind denn nicht genug, mein Junge,
    Tränen sind denn nicht genug.''

    Jajem ssoref is m'n korew
    E goochem mit e wenk, e nar mit e shtomp
    Wer niks is, hot kawsones

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