Very creative but unplayable mod

[Meckerdrache]

Hi Warhammer fans. Im impressed by the depht, variety and graphics of this mod. This could be one of the best med2-mods, but its a shame that it is unplayable because of this ctd-fest. I never played more then 10 turns with every faction of this game. Ctd after huge battles, ctd when i load a save, ctd during the ai turns, ctd when a script is triggered...
So many new units, scripts and campaign improvements with the last patch but i cannot understand why the developers dont stop working on new things instead of trying to make this mod stable at first.
After every patch i start to play cow again to test the stability but the results make me stop to play till the next patch.
Im wondering what all the cow fans here thinking about this problem. Am i a part of the minority with one ctd every 3-5 turns? Maybe the most could play this mod over 100 turns without frustrating ctds?
What is with the devs? I cannot believe that they could play their own mod longer then a few dozen turns without a ctd.

[Reiksfart]

In my opinion there isn't too much to complain about at the moment. It's not too bad considering it is the most ambitious mod for Medieval II, by far. Not to mention the most fun. It has come a long way since the terrible 1.3, where most people were unable to finish a campaign due to campaign ending bugs.

There are still CTD's, but it's no where near as bad as you make it out to be (at least for me).

[boatie]

In my own play, I have found 1.4.2 to be very stable. Unfortunately, I ran into the script error when Chaos goes undivided, so CTD makes it impossible to continue. I'm waiting for 1.4.3

Before 1.4.2, I also had a lot of CTDs. People have listed a ton of solutions that help to minimize CTDs and many of these work. Until I ran into the script error, I think I had 2 or 3 CTD during 70 turns. That's pretty dang good.

It seems:

To reduce random CTDs, play with windowless mode, autosave turned off, lower graphics settings, and limit the submods you install. Some random CTDs continue to be cause by errors in translation, so as these get corrected, those will be reduced.
To reduce after battle CTDs (at least for me), install English Translation only after all patches have been applied.
As COW team introduce new additions to the mod, these cannot be thoroughly tested. As a result, some CTDs will be caused by these additions (and only as they are discovered can they be corrected). So I think we have just tolerate some level of CTDs, if we want additions.

[jaunt12]

In my own play, I have found 1.4.2 to be very stable. Unfortunately, I ran into the script error when Chaos goes undivided, so CTD makes it impossible to continue. I'm waiting for 1.4.3

Before 1.4.2, I also had a lot of CTDs. People have listed a ton of solutions that help to minimize CTDs and many of these work. Until I ran into the script error, I think I had 2 or 3 CTD during 70 turns. That's pretty dang good.

It seems:

To reduce random CTDs, play with windowless mode, autosave turned off, lower graphics settings, and limit the submods you install. Some random CTDs continue to be cause by errors in translation, so as these get corrected, those will be reduced.
To reduce after battle CTDs (at least for me), install English Translation only after all patches have been applied.
As COW team introduce new additions to the mod, these cannot be thoroughly tested. As a result, some CTDs will be caused by these additions (and only as they are discovered can they be corrected). So I think we have just tolerate some level of CTDs, if we want additions.

One new script can wreak havoc with older ones if not written properly,at the current rate of ctd's you got nothing to complain.I get ctds only after battle and i gotta restart the game,after that works like charm.Upgrade your gaming rigs and stop QQing about how bad is the mod.

[Mikail Mengsk]

The odd thing is that those CTD seems to be pretty random in most cases, and their frequency differs greatly from player to player. For example i've had an odd graphic bug that i still don't exactly know how i overcame. So the team doesn't have trustable statistics about them.

Except clear script bugs, that are usually correcter after a while. But most bugs aren't due to scripts.

Bugs for new units are annoying for me too, but are rather rare.

[Pocktio]

It's really not as bad as it was. I get them every 20 turns, randomly. Sometimes I get hours of play without crashes. It's so random but it no longer corrupts my savegames, which is nice I guess.

[Meckerdrache]

Thanks for the tips boatie. Will try it tomorrow. I have never a ctd while a battle lasts, so i think i dont need to lower the gfx settings for that. Ill try it with lower campaign map gfx settings.

@ Pocktio: Every 20 Turns? And this doesnt bother you?

[Klierowski]

For sure IT'S YOU'R FOULT ! .

I played 3 campaning's on 1.4.2 and NEVER had a Critical CTD (with end's campaning) now i'm with Khrone at 105 turn ;].

[Meckerdrache]

What is my fault? My high-end pc which can handle this game easily? My clean installation of cow?
Are you playing this mod with or without the translation?

[Reiksfart]

Crashes will bother us all I would think. It is annoying no one can deny that. To be honest if I didn't like this mod so much I would have walked away from it within a couple of months (I reinstalled med 2 and found this mod last january). No other mod or game has caused me so much frustration, yet I've still stuck with it, it's the only one I play unlike all the others which bored me no matter how polished they were. It is improving though, getting better and better as time goes on. It's now fully playable, we just have to put up with it crashing sometimes.

[Werebear]

where all of your your proper reports?

we cant fix something that we didnt see

WE NEED EVERY REPORT ABOUT EVERY CTD

we didnt answer in bug tread but i personal read every one log!

[Reiksfart]

Last time I posted a log file report it was deleted by someone.

[Werebear]

Last time I posted a log file report it was deleted by someone.

you didn't read first post in bug topic, that is why i delete your post. it wasn't report

[Meckerdrache]

I know isilendil. But i have so much ctds atm ... i dont have the time to report every ctd.

Im still curious about the translation-thing: How many ctds do you have isilendil? Or the other russian speaking players?

[Werebear]

I know isilendil. But i have so much ctds atm ... i dont have the time to report every ctd.

And we have time?

[.:Zack Fair:.]

Did you turn off UAC if you have? It fixed almost all the CTD for me

[eggthief]

Did you turn off UAC if you have? It fixed almost all the CTD for me

He said he has a high-end computer, surely he won't have Vista on such a pc.

[TotalWarFreak]

I have every 2 turns a CTD. I started to save game before eacht battle . i reinstalled the game 3 times with all ways beeing described and followed some instructions to lower the CTDs. I have XP on my CPU.
This mod like Third Age Total War mod is so uber fun that i fought the battles again when CTD.
I dont know the connections between the Devs but it would be great if King Kong would communicate with Isendil maybe they can cooperate a lil bit. Third Age has its advantages and Call of Warhammer have it advantages. A Teamwork would be cool.
Anyway besides the CTDs i want to say thanks to Isendeil and his team (i shouldnt thx you you are the reason why i dont see that often my friends and why i dont go out anymore so often with my girlfriend)
for the fun they give us for FREE with this mod.
Keep on and maybe soon we will have a CTD free version

[Lord Derfel]

Meckerdrache I agree with everything you have said and the mod plays the same way for me as it does for you. And there are far too many CTD's to post logs from as for me they happen very randomly and frequently.

[Beregond]

Very few CTDs are related to translation. I had very few of them in my games, most of them I overcame by reloading the previous save and going through the place where the game exited again.
It is mostly the slow loading time of campaign map -> battle map and vice versa which irritated me most.