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    Default In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Well I'm playing as the Romans M/M and basically my campaign in Greece has hit a standstill,I cant reinforce my armies as quickly as Macedon can send more of theirs.
    The Averni have decided to attack me,Massilia has held,just. My border forts have fallen though they were just likely garrisoned to delay any attacking force and now my Northern italian provinces are under attack.

    So basically I have two stacks in Italy,two in Greece,one (half) stuck in a valley near Massilia,brigands on one side,Gaul on the other.
    My Greek stacks each are at about half strength and two of my settlements are under siege.
    My two stacks in Italy,one is almost entirely Praetorians,created to deal with the Gaulese threat along with another stack which is about half made of volunteer auxilia,the others are more professional legionaries.

    I am outnumbered on all fronts but thankfully the Carthaginians havnt tried to retake the South of Spain,and Arsa.
    I already have all of Northern Africa btw.

    So I could take care of the Averni threat temporarily,or I could secure my Greek frontline.


    What would you do more experienced players of Roma Surrectum?


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    between myself and the spanish the Carthaginians have been destroyed,I hold all of southern spain whilst they hold the north. They greatly outnumber the forces I have there but I can easily ship over legionaries from Siga so thats fine.
    I have taken all of Western Greece up to Athens,between myself and the Spartans we knocked them out of Greece.
    The Macedonian attacks are less frequent but their remaining territories are heavily fortified in terms of troops.
    The Averni are causing me trouble,Im slowly moving through their territories but having to suffer being besieged afterwards rather immediately causing my armies to be withered down until I can send in more legions.
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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Generally the best plan is to snatch all of Iberia as quickly as possible. There's a lot of money in it and noone will bother you from there ever again. I'd forget about Greece entirely, push Arverni across the Alps instead, make sure you have Massilia (=money) and attack them from two sides when you have Iberia under control. Greece is a good place to get bogged down forever and once you completely conquer it you'll just end up bordering even more annoying factions.

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Thanks for the advice there chum,I already have a battle plan formulating.
    Ill hold of the Averni for a tad longer,reinforce and further fortify my forces in
    Greece and then sweep through Iberia like a storm.

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Also make a lot more legions. This is how large my invasion crew was for Greece on H/H.
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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    You could always try using a few raids on your enemies, build a fleet and put an army who has at least one unit of those stone throwing things on it, then sail around to the north of gaul or the east of greece. When your fleet gets there start looking for any lightly defended cities (maybe use a spy) and then take them in one turn using your stone throwers to smash holes in the walls, destroy everything in that city for cash and then give it to the freek greeks or some other such faction to create a buffer between you and macedon/Arverni using force diplomacy. That will give you a bit of a breathing space and give you time to launch an all out attack on either the arverni or the macedonians.


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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Imperator of rome View Post
    Also make a lot more legions. This is how large my invasion crew was for Greece on H/H.
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    Impressive. But why didn't you start at the bottom of Peloponnese?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kozmonavt View Post
    Impressive. But why didn't you start at the bottom of Peloponnese?
    I attacked from Dyrracium and got double teamed by the Greeks and Macedonians. I was planning on using the Marian-Caesar era legionaries but after fighting elite Macedonian stacks, I started making named legions.
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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Do you play on Alex or BI?

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Well thankfully my roman fortresses at Siga and Arretium were completed as well as a campus Martia at Edeasa.
    So I was able to repel the Averni,have sent a full stack into Spain to start finishing off the Carthaginians,however my territories in Greece are,most of them besieged. I have enough men in each just to hold them off,thankfully they all have large walls. However my southernmost territory there is besieged by a full Greek stack...with another not far behind...

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    BI.
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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    What are the advantages of using BI or Alex over the vanilla engine?
    I use BI but I dont know the differences.

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jezza93 View Post
    What are the advantages of using BI or Alex over the vanilla engine?
    I use BI but I dont know the differences.
    BI makes the AI more aggressive and more prone to pursue naval invasions
    ALEX lets the AI retrain units, which makes it tougher to fight, and also there's better phalanx cohesion iirc

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by chaplain118 View Post
    BI makes the AI more aggressive and more prone to pursue naval invasions
    ALEX lets the AI retrain units, which makes it tougher to fight, and also there's better phalanx cohesion iirc
    I have used both BI and Alex, i have found BI to be more stable.

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rikokrates View Post
    I have used both BI and Alex, i have found BI to be more stable.
    ALX is more stable.Fact.BI AI has more naval invasions but they are smaller and uncordinated.ALX has bigger and more succesful naval invasions,along with the other points mentioned.

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    Default Re: In a bit of a jam here chaps.

    can see the sense in going after iberia, I assume the mining is as rich in this mod as it is in others. however, since I let slip my foothold in spain early in the game I have taken a different route.

    initially I took all of italy and sicily as well as massila. After that I worked around into northern croatia taking segestia and the other one on the coast. by this point I was at war with greece, macedon, averni, boii and dacia, with the cartheginians neutral with them having sued for peace after I kicked them out of italy. Seems a similar point to yourself where you need to decide who to hold at bay and who to destroy.

    I chose greece first for 3 reasons. 1. bigger cities = more wealth 2. a secure rear once its taken and 3. closer to rome and therefore easier to ship over my best troops from the early game (polybian cohorts recruited in rome). Now that it's mine I'm sweeping north up through dacia, with the intention of then mopping up the boii. Means I only need to keep half an eye on garrisoning down there since all my enemies are to the north. taking the averni, boii or dacians first would have seen me with enemies on more sides and more of a scrap. Plus, the sweeping north out of macedon (now destroyed) seems to catch the dacians on the hop. Their multiple stacks that were sited around the river near segetica (sp?), which occasionally would try to force the bridges, have had to split up to counter my incursions leaving those remaining vulnerable to my defending forces on the river. divide and conquer as a wise man once said.

    anyhoo, once I'm done with the dacians and continuing north into boii territory I intend a multi-pronged attack on the averni with forces from massila (now that I'm almost able to recruit legions from there) moving west and forces from italy heading north through the mountain passes. once they're suitably subdued I'll turn my attentions to spain and carthage.

    not especially historic I suppose and almost certianly due to pulling out of spain early on.

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