Nomadic factions overpowered?

[Lt.Speirs]

Hi there,

As you might have noticed, (or not) everytime I start a new campaign it seems that all the factions are pretty balanced. However, later in the game when im Rome (again) around 650 auc, i found it very unrealistic that i am the main power in the world and then parthia and sarmatia... every single time they pwnd factions like seleucids, armenia, dacia, cimbri, ptolemaic, pergamon, pontus, scythia etc...

Isnt it a tiny little bit odd that they pwn everytime with every different campaign? (ive played rome for 3 times now cause i installed the new patch along with a submod..)

Anyone had this same feeling when your building towards a great empire with rome, and sadly you only have horse archers ahead to fight....

not a very satisfying thought that they gonna destroy Romans too??

Lets hear it

[chris10]

lets make it quick and painless
thats how things have been, well... more or less...
Rome got his butt handed a few times by the Parthians (they destroyed Seleucid Empire until 64 bc) and
Sarmantia was never part of Roman Empire...
the romans had a certain range of units available in the east and everything else would not be correct....
RSII is not a historical simulation but a historical setting which is fun to play...I dont see why there should be added unrealistic units to the Roman Faction only to be able to fight Parthians or Saramatians better...

[General Brittanicus]

I certainly like fighting horse archers, the parthians were the dominant force in the east for a while, so its not surprising that they are one of the remaining factions.

[xsithspawnx]

Just look at the Scythians, the Huns, the Turks, and the Mongols. Nomadic tribes kicked the crap out of "civilized" cultures all throughout history. I can understand how that might get annoying for game purposes, but it's hardly unrealistic.

[Lt.Speirs]

I suppose you're all right.... but its a little too early in my roman campaign to kick the parthians uit of egypt and turkey isnt it?

[mattfriend0]

in my campians pathia gets rapped by seleucids. pergamon over powers asia minor

[Lt.Speirs]

in my campians pathia gets rapped by seleucids. pergamon over powers asia minor

Just wait and see how seleucids get destroyed eventually (Its litterally impossible for RTW and any other mod to let the seleucids triumph)

[Ferdiad]

Just wait and see how seleucids get destroyed eventually (Its litterally impossible for RTW and any other mod to let the seleucids triumph)

You've never played EB, have you?

[chris10]

Just wait and see how seleucids get destroyed eventually (Its litterally impossible for RTW and any other mod to let the seleucids triumph)

eventually?..they got destroyed by Parthia and Armenia and in 63 bc the Seleucid Empire did not exist anymore...so where is your point ?

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

eventually?..they got destroyed by Parthia and Armenia and in 63 bc the Seleucid Empire did not exist anymore...so where is your point ?

They were made irrelevant even earlier.

[Drtad]

Well sometimes other factions grow superpowerful (I've seen Dacia grow into a superpower numerous times). It varies campaign to campaign.

[chris10]

Well sometimes other factions grow superpowerful (I've seen Dacia grow into a superpower numerous times). It varies campaign to campaign.

I suppose you're all right.... but its a little too early in my roman campaign to kick the parthians uit of egypt and turkey isnt it?

Unfortunately there is only little which can be done against the superfaction forming
The building policiy and recruitment policy is set in the game files but the faction behaviour is randomly loaded from the .exe on each load or reload of the game.
If Egypt will be loaded passive and Greek City States agressive its perfectly possible that Greeks would take over Egypt in no time despite the fact that they only have this tiny Settlement Euhesperides in North Africa...

[Legofan4]

Until the invention of reliable gunpowder weapons horse archers dominated the world so they should be powerful.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Hi there,

As you might have noticed, (or not) everytime I start a new campaign it seems that all the factions are pretty balanced. However, later in the game when im Rome (again) around 650 auc, i found it very unrealistic that i am the main power in the world and then parthia and sarmatia... every single time they pwnd factions like seleucids, armenia, dacia, cimbri, ptolemaic, pergamon, pontus, scythia etc...

Isnt it a tiny little bit odd that they pwn everytime with every different campaign? (ive played rome for 3 times now cause i installed the new patch along with a submod..)

Anyone had this same feeling when your building towards a great empire with rome, and sadly you only have horse archers ahead to fight....

not a very satisfying thought that they gonna destroy Romans too??

Lets hear it

Don't worry - you'll sometimes face cataphracts too.

[xsithspawnx]

Don't worry - you'll sometimes face cataphracts too.

Well that's a relief. You definitely don't just want to fight one superweapon at a time. BTW, I'm fighting Sarmatia, Armenia, and soon Parthia (but hopefully not Scythia, crossing my fingers) at the same time in my Pontus campaign, so I feel your pain somewhat...

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

But the parthians and samatians DID kick the rear ends of all the other peoples in their vicinity. Especially the Parthians, who pwnt the seleucids.

[Drusus]

Nomadic Factions should be strong, but not invincible.
Rome captured the phartian capital several times, but the Phartians have never just touched the walls of Rome.
Also the Romans often crossed the danube to attack some Sarmatian tribes.

[Blatta Optima Maxima]

Nomadic Factions should be strong, but not invincible.
Rome captured the phartian capital several times, but the Phartians have never just touched the walls of Rome.
Also the Romans often crossed the danube to attack some Sarmatian tribes.

Well, you see, Ctesiphon was about 250 - 300km from the border, rome was like 3000.

[Litany of fury]

Like many people have said here, it varies from campaign to campaign. On my Macedonian campaign. the Seleucids are dominating the parthians!

[Ferdiad]

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