gundabad is boring

[TREG]

I'm not sure I entirely see the point of the Gundabad faction... it seems to be a mish-mash of Morder and OOTM units with a few wildmen thrown in (snow troll is cool, even though the texture is kinda screwed up). are they intended to be placeholders?

as it is, the only role gundabad seems to fill is extending some form of evil faction to the northwest of the map so that there are goblins to kill that aren't just OOTM, but they're not particularly interesting. the eastern factions fight with mordor, rhun, harad, isengard, all very unique and interesting factions, and ootm is cool because goblins are at least different than them! but gundabad doesn't even have new orc models.

gundabad should be more of an angmar-ish faction, with evil men highly present and more variety/innovation in the orcs present... it's not a dealbreaker, but they are basically OOTM with a few transplanted mordor units and two wildmen units.

[Ariaci]

Hello TREG,

I have to agree with you a bit. They might have deserved a bit more love in unit creation/variation. Still love to fight them though...... But playing as them I tend to dislike. Do not know why. Might be just me.......

Maybe the next "version" of the mod will give them some more/other units. (This is speculation)

Ariaci

[Hermes Trismegistos]

Well, they are not just Mordor and OotMM units mixed as most of the units use other weapons than the ones they were based on. But I still think they were made in kind of a hurry to have an antagonist when Arnor was ready and I would agree that it would be a good idea to at least give some of the units a more unique look, but I don't know if anything like that is planned for the future.

Mind you there was an OotMM remake planned anyway that was cancelled because the dev left the team, so I could imagine that KK isn't totally opposed to the thought, but it seems that other things (unique settlements for example) will be done first if it is done ever.

[Scouten]

gundabad orcs are my fave orky faction i like there unit roster compared to ootmm as for boring it depends on your play style you can take lots of eriador once you get organized especially if you group up with ootmm you can over throw any opponent 5k orcs will decimate all but the most stubborn of factions as a faction though i do feel they need there own little niche i mean they got trolls and goblins standard stuff if they do get that special bonus than i can see them becoming more fun to play

[Makrell]

Faction is cool but units are boring. They need more mannish troops of hillmen and lossoth. Also the snowmen of forochel

[Lemoniser]

theres a sub-mod that will solve this. or there will be soon...

[jinjo]

I'm not sure I entirely see the point of the Gundabad faction... it seems to be a mish-mash of Morder and OOTM units with a few wildmen thrown in (snow troll is cool, even though the texture is kinda screwed up). are they intended to be placeholders?

as it is, the only role gundabad seems to fill is extending some form of evil faction to the northwest of the map so that there are goblins to kill that aren't just OOTM, but they're not particularly interesting. the eastern factions fight with mordor, rhun, harad, isengard, all very unique and interesting factions, and ootm is cool because goblins are at least different than them! but gundabad doesn't even have new orc models.

gundabad should be more of an angmar-ish faction, with evil men highly present and more variety/innovation in the orcs present... it's not a dealbreaker, but they are basically OOTM with a few transplanted mordor units and two wildmen units.

it's a new faction,so it needs some improvement
dale was very boring faction, but now it has very beautiful and different units

[Nicolaos]

if i remember correctly there was a vote before v2 of third age came out.
people could vote on for another evil faction in the north and gundabad won. i did not vote for gundabad because i already thought that it is a too much orc-centered faction in comparison to angmar.

[Jean=A=Luc]

I did not vote for gundabad because i already thought that it is a too much orc-centered faction in comparison to angmar.

It was just a vote on the name, not unit composition. The faction would've looked the same regardless of the outcome.

It wasn't meant to be player centered faction. It was implemented to add just a bit of diversity and increased AI aggression in the north. That's all really. If it's boring don't play it. The snow trolls are kinda cool though.

[Gimli]

Actully, gundabad is a very interesting faction. Its a good faction in the north for taking out eriador before it can re-generate into Arnor. Its something new besides OoTMM whos in the mountains. If you've read the all of J.R.R. Toilkens you'd know why the Orcs of Gundabad are a very cool faction.

[Kamnik]

It was just a vote on the name, not unit composition. The faction would've looked the same regardless of the outcome.

It wasn't meant to be player centered faction. It was implemented to add just a bit of diversity and increased AI aggression in the north. That's all really. If it's boring don't play it. The snow trolls are kinda cool though.

Well you can't deny that it could be much more fun to play with some new tweaks/units.

[.:Zack Fair:.]

If I remember correctly, shadow of angmar won..But they took OOG anyway

[Whitewalls]

Kinda wish they had calvary or something. It'd add some nice diversity to an orc faction. They seem slow in getting anything going military or economy wise too.

[Big Pacha]

You are all right.

The point is, this relatively new faction of Gundabad needs more development.

I'm confident that It will be done in time, look at what positively happened with Dale & Eriador, who were sad jokes in 1.0 and now are amongst the coolest secondary factions.

[DioD2]

I love Orcs of Gundabad (although improving them would be awesome) and I love their faction symbol it's epic evil awesomeness.

[midterm360]

I like killing Oog , they dont have those pesky snaga skirmisher units which are the bane of my existance

[Steelforce77]

Orcs of Gundabad do need some work, but in all honesty, why not just make Angmar? Wide variety of units and cool back ground.

[Gallus]

Orcs of Gundabad do need some work, but in all honesty, why not just make Angmar? Wide variety of units and cool back ground.

Umm maybe because, you know, it doesn't exist anymore? It'd be like making Arnor... Oh wait... Maybe you could restore the kingdom of Angmar? Now that would be awesome!

[Gimli]

Umm maybe because, you know, it doesn't exist anymore? It'd be like making Arnor... Oh wait... Maybe you could restore the kingdom of Angmar? Now that would be awesome!

The re-united Kingdom of Arnor, if they restore the Kingdom of Angmar as reforable faction then this mod will be epic, like i said, anything could happen. I bet it will happen eventually.

[Scorpius Centaurus]

I recall reading that the game is hard-coded to only allow one union script. And so only Eriador/Anor can use it.