Indian Shoot to kill policy takes one more innocent life

[Central Asian Qaghan]

The border between India and Bangladesh is one where India has a shoot to kill policy. It has now taken another innocent life of a 15 year old girl, who hung on the fence for 5 hours before they tied the body on a bamboo pole and buried her. This has a huge gash in the relations between the two countries with the Bangladeshi prime minister in hot water with the population. While crossing illegally, she should have been detained not killed. Its a very black mark on India.

http://www.economist.com/node/180733...ry_id=18073333

[Gromovnik]

The border between India and Bangladesh is one where India has a shoot to kill policy. It has now taken another innocent life of a 15 year old girl, who hung on the fence for 5 hours before they tied the body on a bamboo pole and buried her. This has a huge gash in the relations between the two countries with the Bangladeshi prime minister in hot water with the population. While crossing illegally, she should have been detained not killed. Its a very black mark on India.

http://www.economist.com/node/180733...ry_id=18073333

CAQ, can you explain it to me please why should anyone want to migrate to the hell on earth that is India?

[Stark of Winterfell]

Because Bangladesh goes underwater fairly often and is even poorer than Indian?

[Central Asian Qaghan]

CAQ, can you explain it to me please why should anyone want to migrate to the hell on earth that is India?

Bangladesh is a poor country and India has many opportunities. Considering that and a part of Bangladesh is occupied by India.

Thread title is misleading. A girl participating in an illegal border crossing is not innocent.

She is an innocent considering that she is a minor and that she was shot and killed. You may not have any sense of pity but I do.

[hellheaven1987]

The law is immoral but nevertheless reasonable, as originally it is to prevent insurgents crossing between two states.

[Gromovnik]

Bangladesh is a poor country and India has many opportunities.

But from your earlier threads I was under the impression that India is by far the worst country in the world, whether it be human rights, economy or something else. Does that mean that you lied to us? My faith in humanity is shattered...

Considering that and a part of Bangladesh is occupied by India.

What part?

[Tyler_the_Great]

She is an innocent considering that she is a minor and that she was shot and killed. You may not have any sense of pity but I do.

Young or not she is still guilty. pity? sure. But that does not excuse her.

[Jom]

CAQ, can you explain it to me please why should anyone want to migrate to the hell on earth that is India?

India may have a lot of poverty but you cannot call it a "hell on earth". It has a very robust democracy, great press and other personal freedoms, and a booming economy. Its education system is a vastly superior to anything they possess in Bangladesh, and it has over double the GDP per capita that Bangladesh has. So why are you questioning someone's motives for wanting to move from Bangladesh to India?

[Babur]

India may have a lot of poverty but you cannot call it a "hell on earth". It has a very robust democracy, great press and other personal freedoms, and a booming economy. Its education system is a vastly superior to anything they possess in Bangladesh, and it has over double the GDP per capital that Bangladesh has. So why are you questioning someone's motives for wanting to move from Bangladesh to India?

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just would like to add that in North-East India, there is growing resentment towards Bangladeshis who are apparently taking jobs there from local people,sounds familiar? .

What's new in this. This is what they do on western border too. Everyday Kashmiris of Pakistani side live with fear of being shot. Whenever there is tension between India and Pakistan, some of the people living in Pakistani Kashmir i.e. Neelum valley, lose their lives, even though we have long errected nuclear for the smart ass in the region.

so the grass is greener on the other side?

One more suggestion, Bengalis are much mature than us. This is evident from their fight for freedom from British and Hindus, and then from their fight for civil rule in Pakistan and then from their fight for freedom from Pakistani elite and "patriotic army". They know much better than us how to tackle the goon in the region. Getting nukes was difficult for them, plus maybe in their priorities it has no place, so they had to find their own way to tackle India and that is through diplomacy and by avoiding any possible tension on the borders. I think we should take care of our problems first.

don't you mean freedom from Pakistan?

[Vanoi]

India is hell on earth? I thought that was Pakistan

[raistlinmajere8]

I love how people get all pissy at Americans for wanting to secure their Mexican border just a little bit more. We get called Nazi racists for wanting to put up sections of fence which would merely SLOW DOWN the insatiable flow of thousands of illegal immigrants crossing our borders every single god damn day.

At least we aren't like ing India and shoot Mexicans on sight when they try and cross our ing border. FFS.

The hypocrisy in the world is astounding. It's a wonder we don't all just implode from the amount of that floating around.

Oh and "One of the World's greatest country's" is a god damn huge stretch there.

[Rolling Thunder]

I love how people get all pissy at Americans for wanting to secure their Mexican border just a little bit more. We get called Nazi racists for wanting to put up sections of fence which would merely SLOW DOWN the insatiable flow of thousands of illegal immigrants crossing our borders every single god damn day.

At least we aren't like ing India and shoot Mexicans on sight when they try and cross our ing border. FFS.

The hypocrisy in the world is astounding. It's a wonder we don't all just implode from the amount of that floating around.

Oh and "One of the World's greatest country's" is a god damn huge stretch there.

Not really. It's civilisation and cultural roots stretch back to the bronze age, it has been a relatively progressive state and society since before it's inception, and in general, I would feel India's general contribution to the world is definitely ranking up there with the other great nations.

Incidentally, the reason you don't shoot Mexicans on sight is that your border police would most likely refuse any order to do so.

[Gromovnik]

At least we aren't like ing India and shoot Mexicans on sight when they try and cross our ing border. FFS.

I'm not an American and I think you should have every right to shoot them. If they're breaking the law, they should face the music.

[Rolling Thunder]

I'm not an American and I think you should have every right to shoot them. If they're breaking the law, they should face the music.

So by that logic we should gun down shoplifters and execute people for speeding tickets. Breaking the law is one thing, and you are punished for it. Cold-blooded murder is quite another.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

I'm not an American and I think you should have every right to shoot them. If they're breaking the law, they should face the music.

So if I pass a fictitious law when I'm PM of my fictitious country saying that Christians offend me and should be shot because hey they are breaking the law right? You'd be one of the supporters of the law right?

[Captain Arrrgh!]

India may have a lot of poverty but you cannot call it a "hell on earth". It has a very robust democracy, great press and other personal freedoms, and a booming economy. Its education system is a vastly superior to anything they possess in Bangladesh, and it has over double the GDP per capita that Bangladesh has. So why are you questioning someone's motives for wanting to move from Bangladesh to India?

Some good points, however India still has loooong way to go, ethics and quality of life-wise. Tragic for the poor girl. Immigration from lesser developed countries to higher developed is an issue affecting us globally. It can only be alleviated with the improvment of the lesser countries, and their level of willingness to improve.

[Copperknickers II]

CAQ, can you explain it to me please why should anyone want to migrate to the hell on earth that is India?

1. India isn't hell on earth, its one of the world's greatest countries and has a Western quality of life for the rich, just a ridiculously high number of poor people too.

2. Bengal is a region in the Indian subcontinent. Bangladesh is a country occupying the area of Eastern Bengal. West Bengal is a state of India occupying Western Bengal. Bangladesh and East Bengal are synonymous, before Bangladesh was created there was only Bengal, a subentity to the British Raj and then to Pakistan. It's pretty simple really.

3. Indeed, Babur, my grandfather was from Bengal, he had to move to West Bengal when Bangladesh was created since he and his family were Hindus. In general, India and Bangladesh have enjoyed relatively peaceful and friendly relations, with over a thousand Indian soldiers dying in 1971 to secure Bangladesh's independence from the oppressive Pakistani rule. Having said that, the Border Force in India has a shoot to kill policy, and has killed nearly a thousand Bangladeshis in the past decade or so. It does have to be said that a large portion of these were drug and weapons smugglers who are funding and supplying India's terrorist problem of near civil war proportions.

Imo, India has the right to protect her borders, especially after the trouble it went to help Bangladesh it can certainly refuse entry to whomever it wishes. The shoot to kill policy of course is barbaric and completely unacceptable, though its less sheer cruelty than the result of desperation at the sheer scale of the problem and the lack of such a huge developing country's ability to deal with it in a civilised manner.

One must remember that, unlike America, India reserves the death penalty for mass murder, war and terrorism only.

[Gromovnik]

India isn't hell on earth, its one of the world's greatest countries and has a Western quality of life for the rich, just a ridiculously high number of poor people too.

it was a satirical post...

[Theseus1234]

Thread title is misleading. A girl participating in an illegal border crossing is not innocent.

[♔DARTH LEGO♔]

She is an innocent considering that she is a minor and that she was shot and killed. You may not have any sense of pity but I do.

The same pity towards the advocation of stoning young couples or being intolerant of atheists views...?? Is it that pity you are referring to?

in a crackdown on Bangladesh-based Islamic extremists and insurgents from India’s north-eastern states

so is this really about your pity or the fact that Islamic extremists are involved and you need some sympathy generated for the "poor freedom fighters"