SOMEONE needs to fix this game! ASAP

[LuxAngel7]

Ok, I realize this is a huge mod and that it is free and that we should be grateful. AND I AM.

HOWEVER,

I tried following the faq guie to remove all the ridiculously RETARDED scripts put in to seemingly RUIN this game.

The result? Yeah it works, but now I have to cheat in 10,000 plus gold EVERY FRIGIN ROUND because modifying the script for enemy archers to magically put stakes down whenever they damn well please has this strange effect on my campaign.

Mods, Devs, modders WHOEVER! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE fix this game!!! All the scripts that have a guide on how to remove them on the FAQ guide ARE RETARDED.
The garrison script is RIDICULOUS and I found myself cheating in money to compensate.

The "oh that faction is broke so lets make them rich" script is RIDICULOUS so I found myself once again cheating to compensate.

The "Magical stakes whenever and wherever the enemy likes" script is RETARDED and found myself automatically cheat replacing the hordes of cavalry I would lose due to this STUPID STUPID script.

The "Hey Mordor and Harad get trolls and elephants by turn 15" script makes me want to RAGE and KILL whoever made it. Once again forcing me to cheat in the appropriate units to defend against a horde of elephants and trolls at turn FIFTEEN. ING 1 - 5, FIFTEEN. .

You guys need to fix this game, because now that I have spent the time to go sifting through forums to actually find out how to properly remove these scripts (the FAQ fails, having about a dozen links to "original" threads, and discussions where one has to read the entire inidividual thread for removing one script) and REGARDLESS of this headache,

now I LOSE MORE THAN 10,000 GOLD EVERY TURN, so I HAVE to cheat in the gold to compensate.

GAME RUINED. THANK YOU.

[LuxAngel7]

ALSO: Will SOMEONE please tell me why in this mod enemy armies magically know EXACTLY where I hide my army on the campaing map?? Every time I hide a force to ambush enemies the immediate turn after they make a beeline for them as if I had actually lighted a target that says "HA DUR IM OVER HERE GUYSSS"

This is also some serious .

Not to mention that if I enter into a battle with a huge enemy force, they get to have all of their reinforcements come in at the same time, while I only get to have one measly unit enter at a time from a distance. AGAIN, .

As well as the fact that EVERY frigin time I engage in a battle, the enemy's forces have a statistical auto resolve advantage that is RIDICULOUS. I have engaged a full roster of elite units against 2 or 3 basic mordor units and LOST with a CRUSHING DEFEAT on auto resolve. THIS IS STUPIDLY ANNOYING.

Lastly, when I engage in a battle on the campaign map, the ground is flat, there are no trees anywhere or anything. Then once in the battle map, TADAAAA I get to fight on mountains and hills with trees EVERYWHERE so I not only have a tough time fighting, but I CANT SEE . GREAT. THANK YOU.

I know Ive listed a lot of problems, but these are game breaking HUGE frigin problems that make me RAGE and leave this game only to pick it up after a long time. Somebody needs to fix these things, beginning with removing EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THOSE RETARDED STUPID INCONCIEVABLY MORONIC SCRIPTS.

If I want a harder difficulty, guess what?! ILL CHANGE THE DIFFICULTY.

>:|

Removed censor bypass.

You posted 2 posts and in both of the you are violating the ToS, i suggest you read up on the rules we have on TWC before posting again.

Hesus

[Ariaci]

Dear LuxAngel7,

Thank you for sharing your opinion. The bonusses the AI gets can be annoying.

After playing a few games I incorperated a few strategies in my gameplay to overcome these. And to be honest, I like them now. The main reason for this is that otherwise the game is to easy, or you might say the AI is a bit incompetent.

As you have already tried to mod the bonusses, and by the look of your tone, did not work quite well, start playing the game on a lower level of difficulty. Mainly the campaign difficulty as this will net you more income and faster growth of your cities.

I could not really tell if you know, but I think there are submods that remove some of the issues you have encountered in your gamepaly.

The best advice I can offer is to adjust the difficulty level and/or have a look in the submods forum.

Hope this help a bit for you to also enjoy the game.

Kind regards
Ariaci

[Makrell]

This mod isnt made for money, it is made cause the developers wanted TOTAL WAR in lord of the rings, so the team decides what they want and should do that

[Belkar]

If you don't like it then don't PLAY it. Also if you're so bad at strategy games you should try COD.

[Dutch-Balrog]

If you don't like it then don't PLAY it. Also if you're so bad at strategy games you should try COD.

problem solved, now the thread can be closed

[Himster]

Play as bad guys. Prob solved.

[Beregond]

lol

on a more serious note, I suppose one should play it cool, eh?

[LuxAngel7]

I think you all may have misunderstood, I do not need to go play COD, and subsequent stupid and pointless replies do not help. I already said that I am grateful for this mod because I can only imagine the amount of work that goes into it.

HOWEVER, including scripts that BREAK the gameplay, both in and out of battle RUIN the game. I play on Very Hard and have no trouble playing the game normally as it is meant to be played.

My problem is that after I have fought through grueling battles to overcome a faction, to only get to their "important" cities with my remaining army, they have no more forces, and voila', since the last two cities are important ones as soon as I siege the faction comes back to life with the Garrison script, has tons of money since it went broke, and I get beat back effectively turning all my efforts into a huge waste of time.

This is only compounded by adding insult to injury when I lose tons of cavalry units to archers because no matter how you approach them they just magically sprout stakes. Sometimes the same unit does it twice in ONE battle.

Im sorry if I came across too strongly, but it was because of all the pent up RAGE that these things have been causing.

The fact of the matter is that these scripts effectively BREAK the game, especially when playing on very hard like I do.

Again, I don't doubt that the creators and contributors to the game have put a ton of work into making this mod. I know this because I myself mod other, although completely different types of games.

However, if they are going to put in a bunch of scripts that are effectively geared toward a small crowd in an already small mod crowd, then they should AT LEAST implement an easy and safe way to remove them without the adverse effects to your campaign, (such as -10,000 gold each turn for no reason, turning a very hard campaign into a "give up now" campaign unless you cheat gold in)

That is all I meant. I didn't mean "my way or no way", I meant that if they include these things that they KNOW many people HATE (as evidenced by the FAQ) then they should make it first POSSIBLE to remove them without the negative side effects, and then maybe EASIER to do then rumaging through a poorly organized and ineffective FAQ area.

LOL and calling me a 14 yr old thats bad at strategy games is a) totally irrelevant b) completely false c) shows you assume things to try and insult me instead of addressing my logical points, showing you are either a troll, a fanboy or both.

[TiFlo]

However, if they are going to put in a bunch of scripts that are effectively geared toward a small crowd in an already small mod crowd (...)

You may want to go back up to the Kingdom: Hosted Modifications page and look at the number of replies this mod has. See ? It even beats Stainless Steel, probably the most popular M2TW mod ever made. Moreover, considering the various different awards TATW has received until now, and the fact that many patches have not brought the changes you advocate for, I wouldn't call the scripting in that mod to be "geared toward a small crowd in an already small mod crowd".

Lowering the difficulty may help. It won't hurt, you know, nobody judges you. I play H/M, and I'm having a blast every time I fire up the game.

[Ariaci]

Hello LuxAngel7,

No problem. I did a quick look arround, and found the following submod:
This might help with atleat the garison script and maybe also the build-up of trolls etc. (seems to be really something you are looking for)

- By Tsarsies: Garrison Script reworked
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=260059

Personally I have not tried the following sub-mod, but there might be some parts of it that you like. As far as I understand you can choice which you want to install.

Baron Samedi's Gameplay Enhancing Submods Compilation- A compilation of various mostly script based sub-mods that bring additional options to tatw vanilla gameplay. It allows you to specifically choose which features you want to use.


Source
Sticky: Released Sub-Mods & Translations - UPDATED FOR 2.1!!!

Just try it, you never know.

Ariaci

[Hesus de bodemloze]

Keep this discussion polite and civil. If i need to come over again warnings will be issued.

[Lemoniser]

honestly i dont see what your problem is. I wouldn't call myself that good at total war (or any game for that matter) and yet jumping straight in on vh/vh ive been able to hold my own against everyone as well as almost take out ootmm. The garrision script as well as the extra money is a bit annoying as without those I'd probably be fighting mordor by now but they've been put in to combat creative assemblies useless ai. As for the garrision script you can guess where its going to be so for these just bypass them until the smaller setllements are destroyed and then come back with an army big enopugh to deal with the garrision script. It may be annoying but if you're playing with the garrision script on it's your only chance. As for the extra money, would you prefer if the evil factions instantly went bankrupt and you could just steamroll everyone? Cos I wouldn't.

As for the -10,000 thing ive never heard of it. But if it is a script put into the mod I'm sure theres a way to take it out. I'd suggest checking the FAQs or pming mr bigab as he'll probably be able to tell you where to go to find how to take it out. However if you pm is anything like this with a big list of what you take as faults and decide that the mod is broken, hell probably jsut tell you where to go or where to stick it. Either of which would be understandable.

[muller227]

I don't mind the trolls so much as Mumaks, I once turned mumak recruitment priority down to 0, next thing I know holy mary mother god their are stacks of Haradrim everywhere. Not only that they are pretty good soldiers, rather quickly put mumaks back on and made catapults and trebuchets, far easier.

[alreadyded]

The people who made this mod made it for themselves, so they did it how they wanted to. I don't agree with A LOT of things in vanilla either, but calling their choices retarded is beyond retarded. Most of these scripts were included to compensate for the horrible campaign AI, so there is a good reason for them even though they themselves can also ruin a game. Also, they are EXTREMELY EASY to remove. Seriously, you open up ONE file, do a search for GARRISON SCRIPT and MONEY SCRIPT, etc., and delete what you want. Problem solved. If you can't figure this out then you should not be calling other people's work retarded that is for sure. Everything else can be removed very easily to, so do it yourself if you want it and let others do what they want. No need to come in here barking out orders and insults when you could have simply asked for a submod or some edited files to your preference, or even just some help. I fart in your general direction sir!

[Rykoth]

To the OP.

Do you know what Lord of the Rings is? The Hobbit? The Si... well that one probably doesn't matter so much. Case in point, do you understand Middle Earth? Have you watched the movies? Or better yet, have you read the books?

Say you go after Mordor. Look at Return of the King. Isengard got crushed in Two Towers, and in Return of the King, Mordor throws a huge army at Gondor. It gets crushed in the end. The Easterlings get stomped on. Mordor retreats. They're now back in their little domain. The good guys make the final assault: the enemy's numbers are OVERWHELMING.

Conquering a nation should not be as easy as vanilla Total War. This is Middle Earth, where to be a man of the west, or an elf, or a dwarf, is to be the underdog, because the Dark Lord is that powerful.

[LuxAngel7]

Yeah, I know what Lord of the Rings is >.>

I know that being a man of the west or race of the west means being the underdog. What I am saying isn't "make it easier" what Im saying is that if you want to make it hard, fine, give them hoards etc. but make them follow the RULES of the game. No instant spawning Horde armies so strategy means absolutely nothing. No broke factions going insanely rich just because they were broke, nor elite units after 10 turns!

Give them the capability to be the overwhelming force they are by following the game rules, not arbitrarily cheting them to an impossible difficulty.

Not to mention the utterly RIDICULOUS script about the archer stakes that they can put down wher and when they want sometimes TWICE in a single battle. Thats just beyond unbelievable and stupid. Thats like the creators making a script that gives all Gondor cities the Plague all the time because "hey, they're supposed ot be the underdog". Just isn't believable, and breaks the game by not following its own rules.

[cezarip]

Plus there are ways around the garrison script. You are supposed to think a bit. I don't very much like the script myself, but is really useful for AI against AI. I simply use a spy. Problem solved without any editing.

And man, play on Hard on Medium and save yourself from the endless spawning armies of doom. Nobody will judge you in any way. Play for fun!

[Ariaci]

D:\MTW II LOTR\mods\Third_Age\data\world\maps\campaign\imperial_campaign

Open this one with wordpad (or something) search for garison script. I think if you delete that whole section at least no garisons will pop-up.

[cezarip]

Send an light infantry unit to engage the archers and then charge them with cavalry. It's effective you know, they won't lay down the stakes if they fight.