Do jihads ever end?

[nibelungvalesti]

i'm playing Byzantium and a jihad as been called on Constantinople, it's been ongoing for a lot of runs now and i'd like it to stop but i cant figure our how. so how do i get it to end?

i'm using SS 6.4 no submods.

[Dark Lord's Heir]

i'm playing Byzantium and a jihad as been called on Constantinople, how do i get it to end?

i'm using SS 6.4 no submods.

There's a time limit for the AI generals to join the jihad, 8 turns or 10 I believe. After that, no more generals can join and then the only way to end a Jihad is to kill off all Jihad armies, basically killing their general which results in the army losing its Jihad status. Just keep doing this and the Jihad will end. Also alternative ways include another faction or non-Jihad army taking the settlement and infighting between Muslim factions, though this is rare I've seen it happen in vanilla.

[Caesar Clivus]

There's probably a Moorish army that joined the Jihad. In my Roman games they always took ages to get to Constantinople and kept the jihad going for ages.

[johnny_b_good]

End is where they sack your capital

[cezarip]

End is where they sack your capital

Or all the generals who joined are dead.

[Forever Steadfast]

And before the question's asked: yes, this is also how Crusades work. Kill all of the crusading generals or lose your targeted city. Either/or will suffice.

[Ferdiad]

It's great fun being Crusaded/Jihaded against though.

[King-Morgoth]

Unless they Jihad/Crusade the most retarded targets ever (*cough* acre in the hands of rebels in the middle of Fatimid territory) >.>

[Gnostiko]

Unless they Jihad/Crusade the most retarded targets ever (*cough* acre in the hands of rebels in the middle of Fatimid territory) >.>

Funnily enough, a crusade was called on rebel-held Baghdad and the Crusader States were the first on the scene, taking the city. Even though the 'traditional' Crusader States have long since been overrun by the Arabs, the Crusaders have a moderately sized middle eastern territory and are holding their own against the Mongols!

[Polycarpe]

I always love Jihad that targetings me. Back in 6.1, there were so many Jihad on Constantinople. It gaves me challenge and epic battles. Holding the city against four army at the same time is quite a challenge (and a laggy one too ). Thanks to the greek firethrower, varangian guards and Byzantine Guard archers for their stakes.

[Rikokrates]

Do jihads ever end? NO!!!

I am playing as the CS and under attack by all four muslim factions it works like this.
1. Surrounded by 2 stacks of each faction.
2. Besieged by one of the factions for two turns.
3. Defeat said faction.
4. Repeat until all dead.
5. By the time this happens te first factions has another two stacks at the gates.
6. Repeat until....... Well i don't know when, it never seems to end!

Note: Occasionally i manage to send a relief army to break siege and move troops around for retraining etc...

My turns are very long!

[Marcvs Antonivs]

I actually never done anything to be crusaded/jihaded against. Fortunately for me never liked ERE, or when playing as HRE never ever someone declared a crusade on me. Now I'm playing Hungary and have all of the Balkans, Greece, Hungary, Romania and a bit of Turkey, and now I'm waiting for the worse...

[Polycarpe]

I miss the numerous Jihad/crusade calls from 6.1

[Lifthrasir]

I play Crusaders States with SS6.4, BGRIV and BG submod.
Around 1125, I had my 1st Jihad called on Jerusalem. After destroying 2 Fatimid and 1 Seljuk stacks, I gave up. At least 4 more stacks were on their way and I couldn't handle it. So I let the Fatimid take the city and I took it back 2 turns later. Not really fair but I couldn't retrain my armies between 2 sieges.
At present, I'm in 1159. I have another Jihad called on Alexandrie for 3 turns. As far as I could find, there are 2 Seljuk and 1 Karawasian stacks on their way. I tried to stop one Seljuk stack near Jerusalem but got my a..e quicked. I've tried again near Cairo, same results. The muslim heavy cavalry seems unstoppable and I can't recruit much good army.
Any idea how to face this madness?

[_Tartaros_]

The muslim heavy cavalry seems unstoppable and I can't recruit much good army.
Any idea how to face this madness?

siege equipment!
build a tunnel of spearman beside your gate. stop the infantry on your walls with swordman and after the gates are brocken, begin the slaughter with your siege equipment by firing right into the gatemop that´s hold in position by the spearman.

[Legio XV Apollinaris]

siege equipment!
build a tunnel of spearman beside your gate. stop the infantry on your walls with swordman and after the gates are brocken, begin the slaughter with your siege equipment by firing right into the gatemop that´s hold in position by the spearman.

i always place stakes with my archers infront of the gate and spearmen on the side. swordsmen and archers on the walls. but firing into the gatemop with siege equipment is a nice idea!!

.. and you mean the siege weapons are accurate enough, without slaughtering too many from you own troops?

[Lugiahua]

siege equipment!
build a tunnel of spearman beside your gate. stop the infantry on your walls with swordman and after the gates are brocken, begin the slaughter with your siege equipment by firing right into the gatemop that´s hold in position by the spearman.

I usually use solely crossbowmen on the wall, and fire directly into enemy climb up with tower/ladder.
and place pikemen around the gate.

[Lifthrasir]

Many thanks _Tartaros_ for he advice. I'll try and see how long I can resist, hopefully until the end of the Jihad.

[Liandro]

If Palermo is the target and the A.I. is Sicily then no, they don't ever end. Khwarezmians just can't ever get that far down into Italy and the spearman stacks beat the hell out of anyone who attacks Palermo. Toledo gets taken, as does that most Southwestern town in Spain, Vienna will get swamped then reconquered by Hungary or someone else, Constantinople usually gets taken due A.I. to stupidity, how anyone can take that city defended by Adrianople and that town of is Targoviste is beyond me. Pretty much everyone else gets the chop in a crusade or jihad except Palermo... London should be easily gotten in a Crusade, but no one seems capable of building an invading force, either that or the sons of the conquering Normans scare most off.

[Andytheplatypus]

If Palermo is the target and the A.I. is Sicily then no, they don't ever end. Khwarezmians just can't ever get that far down into Italy and the spearman stacks beat the hell out of anyone who attacks Palermo. Toledo gets taken, as does that most Southwestern town in Spain, Vienna will get swamped then reconquered by Hungary or someone else, Constantinople usually gets taken due A.I. to stupidity, how anyone can take that city defended by Adrianople and that town of is Targoviste is beyond me. Pretty much everyone else gets the chop in a crusade or jihad except Palermo... London should be easily gotten in a Crusade, but no one seems capable of building an invading force, either that or the sons of the conquering Normans scare most off.

Its some kind of pathfinding error that the AI has problems with. But alas, its hardcoded, so cant be fixed.