Tolerance:

[Col. Tartleton]

The word is everywhere these days: Tolerance. However in my experience most people in favor of tolerance are oblivious to the concept.

For example they speak of being more tolerant of other beliefs. These people will say "I'm very tolerant of gays." This would imply that they believe them to be abominations but have the decency to be nice about it... Tolerance is wrong. They I assume mean to say "accepting" which is something entirely different. We should not be tolerant, we should be accepting, and only to a degree. If a person believes something is wrong they need to speak against it.

We should try to be open minded but we should be intolerant. If someone does something wrong to you, you ought to be civil, but not tolerant. I shouldn't put up with anything.

In the aforementioned situation it is homosexuals who are being tolerant of those who hate them, not the people who don't hate them who are tolerant.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Well most people mistakenly use tolerant to mean accepting.

[Atatürk]

There is no tolerance from the 'tolerant' towards the intolerant.

[Jingles]

I don't get it. Sure we should be accepting when possible, but being tolerant is simply respecting someone else's views even though you disagree with them. There's no real reason to dislike tolerance from that perspective. Unless you're a dictator.

[Viking Prince]

It seems you have defined a word to some terms just to create a discussion.

From Web definitions for tolerance:
"permissiveness: a disposition to allow freedom of choice and behavior"

Now with that common definition in mind, what is your point again?

And why is this political theory????

[Basil II the B.S]

It seems you have defined a word to some terms just to create a discussion.

From Web definitions for tolerance:


Now with that common definition in mind, what is your point again?

But also..
allowance: a permissible difference; allowing some freedom to move within limits

and then we get to the political appropriation of the term by a certain ideology:

''tolerant - broad: showing or characterized by broad-mindedness; "a broad political stance"; "generous and broad sympathies"; "a liberal newspaper"; "tolerant of his opponent's opinions"

Sounds like a quite abused term.

[hellheaven1987]

In the aforementioned situation it is homosexuals who are being tolerant of those who hate them, not the people who don't hate them who are tolerant.

No, both are "tolerant" to eachothers; be tolerant generally means to be neutral, nothing else.

Being "acceptable", however, means supporting that ideas and take a stance to defend it.

[Panzerbear]

If me being tolerant of gays means me not crushing their skulls on sight, I am certainly very tolerant.
but if being tolerant means accepting and supporting their life style - then I am certainly not tolerant.

call it whatever you want.

[Rolling Thunder]

If me being tolerant of gays means me not crushing their skulls on sight, I am certainly very tolerant.

No, that's you not wanting to get you're ass kicked.

[The Dude]

When the word tolerance is used as a political/social term, what is actually meant nine times out of ten is apathy. We are encouraged to be apathetic about the cultural values and habits of others. This is what social-democratic, christian-democratic aswell as socialist political parties in Europe preach. Whenever the question about one's habits or values is raised, the immediate counter argument is: what business of yours is it, how does it harm you what these people do?

The disposition to ask critical questions is constantly undermined by the proponents of multiculturalism. We are not being encouraged to actually tolerate, we're being encouraged to be apathetic and disregard those who live in our nation but don't share our values. This directly removes any foundation for a unifying national philosophy and a cohesive national identity. It's a new means of segregation and should be attacked as such.

[Col. Tartleton]

Which is why multiculturalism is the worst strategy ever. 1 Nation 1 Culture.

All people are welcome, but if you want to be some sort of minority gtfo No special treatment for better or worse.

[The Dude]

Not one nation, one culture. Instead: one nation, one identity. If your culture can connect with that identity, you are welcome. If it can't, join an identity that you are compatible with, elsewhere. The people must be united and must feel the ambition to work towards a common goal. That's what makes countries great.

And it mustn't be just some arbitrary identity superimposed by the government, it must be a sentiment shared and felt by the people themselves. That is why cultural connection and cultural criticism is of such utmost importance.

[Col. Tartleton]

Not one nation, one culture. Instead: one nation, one identity. If your culture can connect with that identity, you are welcome. If it can't, join an identity that you are compatible with, elsewhere. The people must be united and must feel the ambition to work towards a common goal. That's what makes countries great.

And it mustn't be just some arbitrary identity superimposed by the government, it must be a sentiment shared and felt by the people themselves. That is why cultural connection and cultural criticism is of such utmost importance.

One country: One Fashion Sense

[The Dude]

I say, trenchcoats and army boots! Just to beat my opposition to it

[Col. Tartleton]

I would say anything athletic or prep is good. Because you can't just wear one of those two. Sometimes you need to mesh it up with a dank pinnie and let the 'ceps rage, sometimes you need to look not poor to get more money.

[Viking Prince]

I fail to see any discussion of political theory here. If there is a desire to contribute and there is some manner to make this political, please ssend me or another moderator a pm.

Closed.

VP