More than 7 fort types

**Carle** · February 05, 2011, 05:51 PM

I want to have preplaced forts as well as buildable wooden ones (I used the method posted in my tutorial) bu I'm not certain whether the strat map models will be the correct ones. Are preplaced forts different from the buildable ones, i.e. different strat models, different battle models?

**Gorrrrrn** · February 05, 2011, 06:24 PM

you can have large numbers of different forts on the battle maps.
see my PSF mod for SS6.4 (you should be able to port to other mods if you completely re-do the map co-ords etc.)
http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417566

the mod has 22 different stone forts and if people design new ones (like the pkh forts) they can added quite simply.
on the strat map you get different forts for each culture - dunno about different factions. but they are same graphic whatever fort you use.

**Carle** · February 05, 2011, 10:20 PM

So, the strat map model is "unique" for preplaced stone forts? I want to be able to have a variety of preplaced forts, ranging from the default wooden one to a castle, while being able to build only wooden forts. I know how to get the buildable/destructible forts and have "permanent" preplaced forts, but I don't know whether the strat map model would be different.

**Ishan** · February 06, 2011, 12:35 AM

Yes download it and check it out to see it for yourself.

**Ishan** · February 06, 2011, 01:03 AM

Unfortunately no you have to check that in on Grand campaign only i haven't figured out a way to link it custom battle or either it's not possible at all.

**Gigantus** · February 06, 2011, 03:11 AM

Here are pics of the original forts: Creating a World – Stone Forts on the Battlemap

**Gigantus** · February 06, 2011, 09:19 AM

I simply entered the fort in descr_strat, placed an army in it and one outside. Then I started my game with the faction outside.

Change the fort type entry in descr_strat, rinse and repeat.

I don't think pre-placing a fort in descr_strat will let it appear in a custom battle on the same co-ordinates. It is somewhat unlikely the battle editor reads the descr_strat entries for the co-ordinates.

**Carle** · February 06, 2011, 10:07 AM

So... does the strat model change for preplaced forts?

**Gigantus** · February 06, 2011, 10:08 AM

It should, can't remember, too long ago I wrote that tutorial.

**Carle** · February 06, 2011, 10:13 AM

Ah thanks for the fast response. You've been a godsend.

**Ishan** · February 06, 2011, 10:36 AM

You can change strat models for various types of forts you use in your mod.

**Carle** · February 06, 2011, 12:37 PM

As in, plural? under descr_cultures you can only have one type of model for the buildable one... where would I set the strat models for preplaced, nonbuildable forts?

**irishron** · February 06, 2011, 12:49 PM

Install one of the mods that uses them for referral. I believe the descr_strat.txt but don't quote me.

**Carle** · February 06, 2011, 03:48 PM

OK, this is what I thought, I just wanted to verify that.
However, I noticed that Roz's file doesn't have any entries in descr_regions. I thought this was necessary..?

**Gorrrrrn** · February 06, 2011, 05:49 PM

fort locations are restricted by terrain - you just need to keep experimenting to get the right place.
(I've found the some places OK in SS6.3 failed in SS6.4 but couldn't work out why -
apart from region changes etc.

I usually keep forts on roads as one can be pretty sure they are OK for placement regarding terrain.
(although even those fail sometimes.
(Also they come more into play if you do that.)

the descr_campaign_db.xml prevents the exploit of placing a fort on resources.

errors in placement should show up in the error log.
also errors in watchtower placements.

However, I noticed that Roz's file doesn't have any entries in descr_regions. I thought this was necessary..?

unnecessary - all locations are in the descr_strat file

**Carle** · February 06, 2011, 08:02 PM

Why does the Descr_Regions entry exist then? I've seen the kingdoms files, and tutorials on the forum also concur, so why would the devs put it in?

**Gigantus** · February 06, 2011, 08:56 PM

It's the same rules for fort, tower and settlement placement.

Edit: can you give an example of a descr_regions entry? Only situation that I can imagine would be as a hidden resource entry.

**Carle** · February 07, 2011, 05:34 PM

I just checked Britannia again- no forts in descr_regions...I read the tutorial wrong.

**makanyane** · February 06, 2011, 04:16 PM

if you try and insert a fort at a location the game doesn't accept via descr strat - then it seems to just not appear - I don't think you'll get CTD just = no change..... am not sure why it doesn't accept some locations,
hopefully someone else may know - maybe it needs a certain radius of accessible tiles???!