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    Default Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    Hazaraspid,(1148-1424), was a local Kurdish dynasty that ruled Zagros mountains region of southwestern Persia, essentially in Lorestān and the adjacent parts of Fārs which flourished in the later Saljuq, Ilkhanid, Muzaffarids, and Timurid periods. The founder of dynasty Abu Tahir bin Muhammad was initially a commander of the Salghurid Atabaks of Fars and was appointed as the governor of Kuhgiluya, but eventually gained independence in Luristan and extended his realm as far as Isfahan and assumed the prestigious title of Atabak. His son, Malek Hazarasp fought a successful campaign against Salghurids and assisted Jalal-al-din Khwarezmshah in his struggle against the Mongols. Another Hazaraspid ruler Takla, accompanied Hulagu on his march to Baghdad, but deserted because of the murder of the last caliph. He was eventually caught and executed on Hulagu's order. Yusuf Shah I received Ilkhan Abaqa's confirmation of his rule and added Khuzestan, Kuhgiluya, Firuzan (near Isfahan) and Golpayegan to his domain. Afrasiab I attempted to extend his control to the coast of Persian Gulf but faced stiff opposition from the Mongols who defeated his army at Kuhrud near Kashan. He was reinstated by Ilkhan Gaykhatu but was executed by Gazan in October 1296.
    The capital of Hazaraspids was located at Idaj located in present-day northern Khuzestan. Yusuf Shah II annexed the cities of Shushtar, Hoveizeh and Basra in the first half of fourteenth century. During the reign of Shams-al-din Pashang, the dynasty faced attacks from Muzaffarids and the capital Idaj temporarily fell into their hands, until the occupiers had to retreat due to their own internecine fighting. In 1424, the Timurid King Shahrokh deposed the last Hazaraspid ruler Ghias-al-din thereby ended the dynasty.
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    1. Abu Tahir bin Muhammad (r. 1148-1203)
    2. Malek Hazarasp (r. 1204-1248 )
    3. Emad-al-din (r. 1248-1251)
    4. Nosrat-al-din (r. 1252-1257)
    5. Takla (r. 1258- )
    6. Shams-al-din Alp Arghun
    7. Yusuf Shah I (r. 1274-1288)
    8. Afrasiab I (r. 1288-1296)
    9. Nosrat-al-din Ahmad (r.1296- 1330)
    10. Rokn-al-din Yusuf Shah II (r.1330-1340)
    11. Mozaffar-al-din Afrasiab II (r.1340-1355)
    12. Shams-al-din Pashang (r.1355-1378)
    13. Malek Pir Ahmad (r.1378-1408)
    14. Abu Saeed (r. 1408- 1417)
    15. Shah Hussein (r.1417-1424)
    16. Ghias-al-din (r.1424)

    This faction must be in BC 3.0 and must have several different units .
    Is it in BC 3.0 ?

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    i like it as a team member but can you give me some of its units looks if you have some pictures for it

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    The idea itself is very good, but we will include that faction only if you find a way to have more that 31 factions in a mod for M2TW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wudang_clown View Post
    The idea itself is very good, but we will include that faction only if you find a way to have more that 31 factions in a mod for M2TW.
    I had no idea this game could support that many factions!

    Is this only possible in the Kingdoms expansion? And exactly how many are playable?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zippy View Post
    I had no idea this game could support that many factions!

    Is this only possible in the Kingdoms expansion? And exactly how many are playable?!?!?!
    30 faction for bc 3

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    Like already discussed concerning the Antioch faction, don't see what this faction could add to the game. There are already too many Atabegs

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    Native dynasty of Iran at 1300-1400 AC

    Do you see ?
    This is that Luristan atabegs (1148-1424)

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    I've deleted a bunch of posts. Trolling and hate speech will not be tolerated here. If you want to add to the discussion - stay on topic and provide back-up of your claims.

    If you want to offend any ethnic group here - don't even think about this, I will delete your post before you even manage to hit the first letter on your keyboard.

    Also, Pronoia Allagion - you have been reported for your offensive behaviour.

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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    Listen to Wudang.

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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    Second warning.

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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    If there any one interest did find this map of the region in 1190
    nothing like good old wiki
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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    that not 1190, there were no Zangids by that time



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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    i heard some gypsies resistance Timur , so we must add gypsy faction ?
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    Default Re: Hazaraspids (Atabegs of Luristan)

    Use arguments instead of scorn.

    Btw, does any of you has any substantial argument against Atabegs of Luristan? Because for now this thread is like a bragging match.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wudang_clown View Post

    Btw, does any of you has any substantial argument against Atabegs of Luristan? Because for now this thread is like a bragging match.
    Indeed, I think we can safely conclude that they existed for awhile.

    Personally I don't believe they were major enough to warrant a faction, but I'm curious as to what possible AOR units could be recruited in that territory. Unfortunately a quick scan of google only shows some prehistoric or classical artifacts/weaponry.
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    Timur kept them in power. It was Shah Rukh that ended the dynasty. I would guess that if they had resisted Timur, he would have destroyed them, but that's only supposition on my part.
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    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    Here's a more scholarly source on them (from the Brill Encyclopedia of Islam):

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enros View Post
    You don't seem to be familiar with how the burden of proof works in when discussing social justice. It's not like science where it lies on the one making the claim. If someone claims to be oppressed, they don't have to prove it.


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    I was send a comment (Add Luristan atabeg faction ) and i Discourage from that because i see game cannot add any faction more than 30
    If i said from resistance of people of Borujerd , it means is not that you must add this faction , I just said it for who that said the Atebegs of Luristan was weaker !!! You don't know many things from true history of this land , and i know many things from history of this land because i born here and i live here.
    I only tell you same things that true in history of Iran and you may not agree that but that is true ...

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    Yeah his right
    atabegs of loristan do exist and you couldn't say any thing about this
    And about discussing the power of atabegs of luristan and azabaejan :
    this is a Difficult discussion and must be discuised By the professors that know enought about both sides .

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