Proposal to change the Syntagma Pro-Curator

[Libertine]

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task

I Propose to change that to

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Curia to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. They will be voted in over the period of one week requiring a simple majority

This is just brainstorming here. But what does everyone think?

[Ó Cathasaigh]

It seems plausable.....in fact It makes since.

I support it.

[vizi]

I am always for total democracy! But will it work on a forum?

[Libertine]

I think it will work. The Curia votes in the person that governs the curia. Makes sense to me. Though im not sure if it should be a Simple Majority or a 2/3 majority. I would be tempted to say a Simple Majority as it means that the Candidate will most likley recieve that position with the minimum of fuss.

[the Black Prince]

the republican consul is the Curator.

he CHOOSES to delegate his function as Curator to a pro-Curator. he is under no obligation to do so. the post only arose when boris fell inactive and delegated his curial functions to Sulla.

this motion is really useless, we could elect as many pro-curators as we wanted, he would have nothing to do unless the Curator delegated him any work. this is really a waste of time

[Wild Bill Kelso]

the republican consul is the Curator.

he CHOOSES to delegate his function as Curator to a pro-Curator. he is under no obligation to do so. the post only arose when boris fell inactive and delegated his curial functions to Sulla.

this motion is really useless, we could elect as many pro-curators as we wanted, he would have nothing to do unless the Curator delegated him any work. this is really a waste of time

I agree

[Sinuhet]

the republican consul is the Curator.

he CHOOSES to delegate his function as Curator to a pro-Curator. he is under no obligation to do so. the post only arose when boris fell inactive and delegated his curial functions to Sulla.

this motion is really useless, we could elect as many pro-curators as we wanted, he would have nothing to do unless the Curator delegated him any work. this is really a waste of time

Ave tBP!

However, it seems that in the staff is relatively strong an idea to block votes of Rep. Consul. It would be a better solution then to accept this fact lasting still long in reality and to recon that there will be the second appointed Imperator Consul only instead of appointed/elected Rep. Consul. It would be possible further to take one of the appointed Imperial Consuls as the Curator in the same time, but it seems to me to be more logical to let this task for somebody elected by the Curia for its larger autonomy and independence from the staff. And why not to use this proposition fro such aim and not to name the person Pro-Curator?

Bye Sinuhet

[Seleukos]

I think the Pro-Curator should remain under the discression of the Syntagma Curator. And in the events of an absent or non existing Curator, an election.

[Justinian]

Much better would be to say that a Procurator can be chosen by election if no Republican Consul is present.

[Saint-Germain]

So we're looking at something vaguely like this?

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. If there is no Republican Consul when the post of Syntagma Pro-Curator falls vacant, candidates for the position of Pro-Curator can be voted in by a simpe plurality. This vote would be open for one week.

What do we think?

[Seleukos]

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. If there is no Republican Consul when the post of Syntagma Pro-Curator falls vacant, candidates for the position of Pro-Curator can be voted in by a simpe plurality. This vote would be open for one week.


Change to:

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. If there is no Republican Consul when the post of Syntagma Pro-Curator falls vacant, candidates for the position of Pro-Curator can be voted in by a simpe majority. This vote would be open for one week.

[Fabolous]

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or staff member selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. If there is no Republican Consul when the post of Syntagma Pro-Curator falls vacant, candidates for the position of Pro-Curator can be voted in by a simpe plurality. This vote would be open for one week.

Not bad. I support. Except it should be simple I think in the second to last line. But that is my prick side coming out.


Also, a basic civ cannot be Pro-Curator? It was always like that, I guess that is cool, we want experience but he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't a good choice. Thoughts on that issue?

[Libertine]

Sounds good to me. I basically started this because i thbought that the curia should at least have some say over the Pro-Curator - With this they do. i think we could vote on it now......cant we?

[Seleukos]

Sounds good to me. I basically started this because i thbought that the curia should at least have some say over the Pro-Curator - With this they do. i think we could vote on it now......cant we?

It hasnt even been 3 hours, let some discussion come. Besides, you need sponsors.

[Saint-Germain]

@ Seleukos, What if there are four or five candidates? Are we still going to be gunning for a majority?

Edit: I just checked up the law relating to Quaestors - it doesn't specify plurality or majority (I would assume plurality, though) Iwould be happy to sponsor this...

[Seleukos]

Oh, didnt think of that...ignore my previous post.

[Saint-Germain]

Except it should be simple I think in the second to last line. But that is my prick side coming out.

Also, a basic civ cannot be Pro-Curator? It was always like that, I guess that is cool, we want experience but he wouldn't be picked if he wasn't a good choice. Thoughts on that issue?

Well we're throwing it open to patricians, which is a hell of a lot more than most positions... I suppose the three-month-waiting-period thing applies here, too.

Try this:

Syntagma Pro-Curator

A Patrician, Senatorii, Cohortes Praetoria or magistrate selected by the Republican Consul to manage day to day duties in the Curia. They will have Local Moderator powers over the Curia for this task. If there is no Republican Consul when the post of Syntagma Pro-Curator falls vacant, candidates for the position of Pro-Curator can be voted in by a simple plurality. This vote would be open for one week.

Changed it to magistrate because that's what they're called in the rest of the Syntagma.

[the Black Prince]

it should be magistrate, correct menander. it also cannot be moved to vote for a week, and needs supporters

i still think its pointless and a contradiction

if there is no Curator, the role of Curator is passed to one of the other trium, specified in the C0ontigency act that sim wrote. that other trium then becomes Curator, and can appoint a pro-curator, so this current form completely contradicts that. for while there may be no rep consul, there is ALWAYS going to be a curator with the responsibility of appointing Pro-Curators.
not to mention that each no curator gets the option to sack the current pro-curator and replace him with a new appointee, so anyone we did elect would only hold office until the new rep consul was elected, at which point there is always the chance he will be booted...


so like i say, this amendment is a total waste of time, a contradiction in terms, and utterly utterly useless

[Libertine]

Sorry Sinuhet, but were you basically saying:

If there is no Republican Consul, then instead of having Pro-Curator fall to the Imperial Consul it should be elected by the Curia due to the autonomy of it?

[Sinuhet]

Sorry Sinuhet, but were you basically saying:

If there is no Republican Consul, then instead of having Pro-Curator fall to the Imperial Consul it should be elected by the Curia due to the autonomy of it?

Ave GrimSta!

Yes, this is the basic idea of that my post. Sorry for my bad English :wink: .

And the other idea was to pay attention to the fact that the Republican Consul is de facto a non-existing function for a long time already and that this wil not be different in the future.

Bye and thanks for your patience with my English, Sinuhet