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    Default General unit count

    The generals of the family (and their buddies as Gandalf or Glorfindel) have a unit with an amount of soldiers around them.
    But the unit size is sometime different, most often a few men in differences but sometime quite many, and I wonder why?
    Thus, is there any way I can help my generals to enhance the troop size?
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    Default Re: General unit count

    I think it's determined by 1. Faction Leader/Faction Heir which have more men than any general of equal command. And 2. Amount of command, more command = more men.

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    Default Re: General unit count

    Thus, is there any way I can help my generals to enhance the troop size? gaining experience of course

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    Default Re: General unit count

    Quote Originally Posted by jinjo View Post
    Thus, is there any way I can help my generals to enhance the troop size? gaining experience of course
    Getting more command is always good. I'm not sure if there is any other factors like traits or so but to be honest in all my playtime I can't think of any trait that would increase general bodyguard size except the ones that give more command of course. Perhaps respect/fear is also a factor. But I'm not sure.

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    Default Re: General unit count

    The leader/heir aspect I had noted, true, but had not looked closer upon the causual connection with command and experience. Thanks!

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    I often heard that "personal security" also increases the bodyguard size. But i can`t verify that.




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    It would be interesting to keep note of a low level general from the start and see how his size grows over time and then see what various things attributed to it.

    I might try this later.
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    @ Hartassen

    Good thought, will do that to.

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    I think, every trait increase increases the size of the bodyguard.
    perhaps some traits (like command or perhaps faith) have more or less influence on that.

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    This question was researched for RTW: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...bodyguard-size

    Thus, in RTW the factors were:

    1. Being faction leader or heir or former heir
    2. Personal security trait
    3. Influence

    Increases in bodyguard size occur gradually. Decreases in bodyguard size (e.g. due to loss of personal security) did not occur by themselves, but rather as a result of battle losses that were then not replenished.

    Specifically, command did not make a difference.

    M2TW does not have influence as a stat, so maybe dread/chivalry make a difference? You can imagine that either a particularly chivalrous or a particularly nefarious character would be able to attract like-minded companions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseusz79 View Post
    Specifically, command did not make a difference.

    M2TW does not have influence as a stat, so maybe dread/chivalry make a difference? You can imagine that either a particularly chivalrous or a particularly nefarious character would be able to attract like-minded companions...
    Will keep special attention to this then and see if it is a trigger, thanks!
    Suddenly the great bodyguards around my awesome but feared generals dosen't seem such a good guys anymore

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    Quote Originally Posted by odyseusz79 View Post
    This question was researched for RTW: http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...bodyguard-size

    Thus, in RTW the factors were:

    1. Being faction leader or heir or former heir
    2. Personal security trait
    3. Influence

    Increases in bodyguard size occur gradually. Decreases in bodyguard size (e.g. due to loss of personal security) did not occur by themselves, but rather as a result of battle losses that were then not replenished.

    Specifically, command did not make a difference.

    M2TW does not have influence as a stat, so maybe dread/chivalry make a difference? You can imagine that either a particularly chivalrous or a particularly nefarious character would be able to attract like-minded companions...
    Thanks a lot for the info!
    Personal security traits *duh* should of thought of that one
    And yes influence could very well be respect/fear trait.
    Like I said I will try and keep a lookout during my campaigns

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