Crash before battle, now can't load any savegame

**Boriak** · January 31, 2011, 06:39 AM

I installed RTW and EB 1.2 on my new laptop a few weeks ago. The whole thing runs better than on my old PC but now I have a problem. I attacked a rebel army spawning in my homeland and while the tactical map was being loaded, I had a CTD. I re-ran the game, chose the same savegame to be loaded and I get an instant crash. I try again, trying to load a different savegame. Same result.

I uninstalled EB, ran Vanilla RTW which works normally. I reinstalled EB and all the fixes and load the problematic savegame normally. I come to the same battle and again the CTD and again with the CTD on every savegame.

I wanted to ask if anyone had this problem before I go reinstalling EB.

**XSamatan** · January 31, 2011, 09:04 AM

To clarify: The saves themselves aren't doomed, you can load them but not with the existent build of EB, you'll have to reinstall to load them.

A repeatable crash before a battle can be linked to missing sprites, you are sure that 1) the version number 1.2 is shown in the main menu of EB and 2) the sprites fix is rightful installed?
Other reasons (if it is a complete unchanged EB build) can be graphic drivers or a bugged FM inside the stacks (i.e. if he has no movement-points)

You might want to upload your savegame so I can load it on my builds.

XSamatan

**Boriak** · January 31, 2011, 01:17 PM

Missing sprites, you say? Could this be caused by using the Naval StratMap Mod that changes the way ships appear on strategic map? Because when I installed EB 1.1 and upgraded to 1.2 I continued with Vartan's compilation of submods. From that one I installed the three EB fixes and the ships textures. The first EB installation also had the Phalanx Mod installed but not the second time.

Here's the link for downloading the savegame: http://ul.to/6n7gpy

**raistlinmajere8** · January 31, 2011, 03:06 PM

Okay random question, will applying the 1.2 fixes ruin my savegame? Furthermore, will applying those fixes nullify jirisys's alex.exe submod compilation?

Would I just apply the 1.2 fixes, re-install the sub-mod compilation and then I should be able to start up my savegame again right?

**XSamatan** · January 31, 2011, 04:08 PM

@ Boriak
I can't give you support on these questions as I do not know what is changed by Vartans compilation, the strat-map-ship-addon has nothing to do with that. You might crash the fixes if you apply them before installing submods but on the other side, submods can be crushed if the fixes are applied after them.
In any case, I won't load your save-game as I do not have those submods installed, don't want to ruin it.
You should ask in the creators thread about the fixes issue, if you post back with the result maybe I can say something about it.

@ra istlinmajere8
All of the 1.2 fixes are save-game compatible, meaning you will be able to go on with campaigns you started before installing them.
I can't give you any support for submods as I don't use them, ask the creator.

XSamatan

**Boriak** · January 31, 2011, 04:21 PM

Tomorrow I will reinstall EB with the official fixes but will not install the new ship textures. I will try to enter that battle and let you know of what happens.

**Boriak** · February 01, 2011, 08:45 AM

I reinstalled EB. I used EB 1.1, upgraded it with EB 1.2, installed the three fixes and successfully started a new game to get the 'saves' folder. I copied the troubled savegame into 'saves' directory and tried loading it. As soon as I click 'load', I get a crash. I could at least load it yesterday. What is going on here?

**XSamatan** · February 01, 2011, 09:48 AM

Did you install Vartans compilation? Sounds like there are things that aren't save-game compatible inside this pack.

**Boriak** · February 01, 2011, 10:29 AM

Only the three official EB fixes (missing sprites, etc.) and Forced Diplomacy. This is effectively the same configuration as on my PC.

**XSamatan** · February 01, 2011, 02:48 PM

So what are the changes between your installation yesterday and today? Did you let out all other submods? This is quite important, because if you started a campaign with a submod and this submod changes important things you can't load it on a other build, this is why I don't load such files on my build, it will just ruin them more.
If you get to load it, use_auto win to get over this problematic battle-

XSamatan

**Boriak** · February 02, 2011, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by XSamatan

So what are the changes between your installation yesterday and today? Did you let out all other submods?

I don't think I can make it any clearer. No submods. Only fixes. Same installation as on the PC.

**XSamatan** · February 02, 2011, 05:52 AM

The RTW engine has a tendency to corrupt savegames after crashes, if starting a new campaign works, this could be the problem.

XSamatan

**Boriak** · February 02, 2011, 09:59 AM

I took one campaign from my PC to my laptop and played it for four years. I am playing the campaign on PC now and have nearly caught up with what I played on my laptop. I will only start new campaigns on the laptop.