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    Default American terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_815984.html

    DETROIT — A 63-year-old Southern California man who was traveling with explosives in his vehicle with the intention of blowing up one of the nation's largest mosques where mourners had gathered for a funeral was arrested in the Detroit suburb of Dearborn, Michigan authorities said Sunday.
    Incredible part:
    Stockham remained jailed Sunday on a $500,000 bond. A preliminary examination is scheduled for Friday.
    If he was in any case Muslim there would be DEFCON 1 situation and I supose plans on invading somebody would be largely discused..





    EDIT: I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    Last edited by Darth Red; February 01, 2011 at 07:11 PM. Reason: title clarity

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    Default Re: USA Christian terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    Where did it say he was Christian? Nonetheless, horrible thing, but luckily he was caught.



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    Quote Originally Posted by charles the hammer View Post
    Where did it say he was Christian? Nonetheless, horrible thing, but luckily he was caught.
    It doesn't anywhere.. I assumed it, but that is the point.. if he was in any case Muslim, words "Muslim" , "Islamic" , "Fundamentalist" etc. would be mentioned atleast 140 times in this text, also previous acts of "Muslim" and "Islamic" "terrorists" would be listed, connection to 9-11, Alqaida, etc, etc.. While when suspect is not Muslim everybody takes completlly different aproach..

    He parked car full of explosive with intention to blow building full of people and they put bond... WTF..
    Last edited by Armija; January 31, 2011 at 05:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    It doesn't anywhere I assumed but that is the point.. if he was in any case Muslim word "Muslim" and "Islamic" would be mentioned atleast 40 times in this text, also previous acts would be listed, connection to 9-11, Alqaida, etc, etc.. While when suspect is not Muslim everybody takes completlly different aproach..
    ah I see.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    It doesn't anywhere.. I assumed it, but that is the point.. if he was in any case Muslim, words "Muslim" , "Islamic" , "Fundamentalist" etc. would be mentioned atleast 140 times in this text, also previous acts of "Muslim" and "Islamic" "terrorists" would be listed, connection to 9-11, Alqaida, etc, etc.. While when suspect is not Muslim everybody takes completlly different aproach..
    Because generally there are muslim terrorist networks, not individuals who work utterly alone, and I doubt this guy is a part of a network himself. If he is, then of course a higher degree of fear would be justified once that comes to light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    It doesn't anywhere.. I assumed it, but that is the point.. if he was in any case Muslim, words "Muslim" , "Islamic" , "Fundamentalist" etc. would be mentioned atleast 140 times in this text, also previous acts of "Muslim" and "Islamic" "terrorists" would be listed, connection to 9-11, Alqaida, etc, etc.. While when suspect is not Muslim everybody takes completlly different aproach..

    He parked car full of explosive with intention to blow building full of people and they put bond... WTF..
    See that is called 'Double Standards'. The world might have changed drastically but they will never forget the clashes of Crusaders against the Saracen infidels.
    Anyways anyone who tries any act like these is actually not following Islam, Christianity etc. Some people wrongfully criticize the religion these people belong to.

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    Altough I'll gladly admit that I despise islam, and consider it a totalitarian ideology similar to nazism, fascism and communism.
    You need to do some homework. Study Islam before making such comments. Your post clearly indicates your lack of knowledgge about Islam & its teachings.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    I do condemn this, and I'd like you to find a quote from me where I said that I hate muslims. Altough I'll gladly admit that I despise islam
    Learn to respect other people's beliefs & ideologies if you believe in 'Freedom'.
    Last edited by Darth Red; February 01, 2011 at 07:34 PM. Reason: double post

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    Default Re: USA Christian terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    So much for the religion of peace. M I RITE?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferrets54 View Post
    So much for the religion of peace. M I RITE?!
    U R RITE. LOL.


    But Christians have always been blowing up buildings and using violence to push their religious beliefs on others or to prove they are superior.

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    Default Re: USA Christian terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    I do agree with you about the 2nd quote ^-^

    Well mostly, invasion might be slightly overreacting

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaunty14 View Post
    I do agree with you about the 2nd quote ^-^

    Well mostly, invasion might be slightly overreacting
    My entire OP was aimed at being little sarcastic, but if he is really Muslim I can emagine that they would take out wanna-invade/attack list and start looking for/creating connections..

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    This is nothing to do with Christianity :WHISTLING SMILEY:




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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    This is nothing to do with Christianity
    But it could have to do with Islam....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heinz Guderian View Post
    This is nothing to do with Christianity :WHISTLING SMILEY:
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    I think he is making a point where people would come in and say (in other threads) this has nothing to do with islam with a



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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    The car bomber in NYC was religiously motivated. We do not know if this guy was religiously motivated. There is a huge difference and your thread title is just misleading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pontifex Maximus View Post
    The car bomber in NYC was religiously motivated. We do not know if this guy was religiously motivated. There is a huge difference and your thread title is just misleading.
    I remember it well that minutes after the (Muslim sounding) name of that guy was maden public without anybody knowing what were his motivations news were full of words such as "Muslim terrorist" and "Islamic plot"

    Anyway all of you have focused to that intentionaly sarcastic part of the title while nobody coments that they puted bond on his arrest..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    I remember it well that minutes after the (Muslim sounding) name of that guy was maden public without anybody knowing what were his motivations news were full of words such as "Muslim terrorist" and "Islamic plot"

    Anyway all of you have focused to that intentionaly sarcastic part of the title while nobody coments that they puted bond on his arrest..
    Faisal Shahzad made this video before he attempted to bomb Times Square.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    I think you'll find the difference is that the guy in NY was using his religion as justification for his actions. There is no evidence of that (so far) in this case.

    EDIT: Beaten to the post.
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    Default Re: USA Christian terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    Actually if he was Muslim people would be saying thinks like it was a "homegrown" person with an "agenda against the health care bill" and telling us not to "jump to conclusions" because he was Muslim like they did with the Fort Hood bomber.

    The only time you can jump to a conclusion is if you are going to blame Sarah Palin.

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    Default Re: USA Christian terrorist caught with explosive aimed at blowing up mosque full of people

    Quote Originally Posted by Armija View Post
    You are missing my point.. I intentionaly made such sensationalistic title because if he was in any case Muslim it would sound exactly like that and all newspapers would be making headlines with such titles.. Remember what happened when guy tried to blow his car in NY.. I can't see why is this guy any different from him but this guy is actually allowed to walk home till trial only if he pays bail.. I mean WTF
    Your point being that Muslims get an unfair rap of being associated with modern terrorist acts? I wonder where they get that association Maybe its from the litany of terrorist attacks that are perpetrated in the name of Allah, in the last 30 years.

    Because I'm an apostate of all religions, I have no qualms arguing that Christians have an equal capacity for needless violence predicated on their religious beliefs. However, its pretty common knowledge that Christendom itself got out of that mindset during the Dark Ages. It's just that Islam, and more specifically it's Islamist followers, are still living their own Dark Age where backwardness and petty violence reign supreme.

    Quote Originally Posted by Babri View Post
    Learn to respect other people's beliefs & ideologies if you believe in 'Freedom'.
    Learn to define freedom. It has nothing to do with "respecting" other people's beliefs and ideologies and more to do with allowing them to hold those views as a matter of right. Escaping the duress of law which forces opposing views into obscurity *sharia law* cough cough. If you do profess to understand 'freedom', you should be prepared to withstand arguments from those who vehemently oppose your own views.
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