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    Good Day my fellow total war players.

    I have a request, my Economics Professor introduced to us the this question which the answer will lead to the world we knew today to be more economically developed.

    His project is for us to prepare a speech answering the question but I'm all out of ideas. Only thing I can think of is making Mr. 47 assassinate all of them corrupt officials in the world and I'm not sure I would get a high performance for that.

    So can anyone here answer this question? Note that you can answer this even though your answer is morally wrong (eg. socialism, communism) but my Prof wants something that hasn't been discovered.

    Thank You!

    Edit: I'm not sure this is the right section to ask this but I can't find a section to discuss world economy and such.
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    only way to "cure" the worlds economy is to find a way to get rid of 20-30% of worlds population.generally overpopulation is the main cause of economic decline.now if you are saying how to develop economy further i think communism isnt the way to do that because even perfect communism without corruption personal gain and all this stuff,doesnt promote competition.without competition we dont have much innovation.this is my opinion im not saying this is a fact that everyone knows.my general belief is that the world is always going through cycle.economic growth development and scientefic breakthroughs.population grows too much.few are rich most become poor.military factories build non stop.economic crisis leads to riots and revolution against governments as they are seen as the cause of all this.and then as always a spark leads to massive scale war.wwI wwII coalition wars french revolution etc.so unless we find a way to send people off to colonise space which seems impossible right now,this cycle is going to repeat itself.but as always science is a mystery.suddenly tomorrow someone may come with a new form of energy.you never know.

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    Define 'more economically developed'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phier View Post
    Define 'more economically developed'.
    As a student, I can define that as the point where human welfare is met. The role of economics in this world is human welfare after all. I'm not sure if you'll be satisfied by that answer though.
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    Human sacrifice, ideally attractive virgin types, to the sun god usually works well. Greedy bugger he is.
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    ... Well... considering that some, "economic developments" actually ruin countries(France in 17's, US now, other places at other times)... I'd say that simply keeping tabs on financial company's books would be a big help.

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    Start a really big war.

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    There's no true definitive answer... I guess that you could go with flexible measures, systematic regulation and creative thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Gothicus View Post
    There's no true definitive answer... I guess that you could go with flexible measures, systematic regulation and creative thinking.
    Yeah most of my prof's questions come to that in the end. I still respect him though, he studied in the University of Chicago after all..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shonos47 View Post
    Yeah most of my prof's questions come to that in the end. I still respect him though, he studied in the University of Chicago after all..
    Is he a Chicago Boy? Because if he's then go with some old school Keynesianism(I can't assure you that you'll pass the subject though lol)

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    Oh we're well on our way to doing that already, no need to rush it along. I'd prefer if WWIII came after I was long since buried. After all, with the current over population it is inevitable that someone just snaps and starts shooting into crowds.

    The question of "More development" is a double edged sword sadly, since the more developed the country is the higher its birth-rates tend to be (this is a gross over-generalization, but it needs to be made) and as such we will soon have another crisis in our hands. The only solution is either to find more living space, commit genocide on a mass scale, or ignore the problem and hope it goes away. Most governments will pick option C after all.

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    for 'the world' to be more economically developed eh

    from an economist's point of view, it's all about allocation of resources in a world of scarcity, and the true, time tested way of dealing with that is taking it from other people.

    so a war of enslavement and for lebensraum would be right up the morally bankrupt alley of what your assignment is looking for

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    Scrap all military budgets and use it to develop the third world.

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    put a lot of r&d into food and clean water production and for the investment in megacities for massive population growth in the future, followup with a lunar colony and terraformed mars along with large biodomes orbiting earth to assist in food production.

    deal with would be rival states by dropping a sugar cube of a neutron star on their continent.

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    By R&D I'm guessing, research and development right?
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    I think before we can begin to sort out the finances of the world, first of all we have to find out to whom we are all, and I mean all, in debt to. Someone somewhere must be accumulating all these IOU's because I don't know of any country in surplus, any country that is, that can change things.

    But turning to individual nations it seems obvious that their workforces from top to bottom are in a never-ending circle of wanting more. The basics tell us that unless a business can generate profit it cannot pay for what it has, never mind expand. So existing workforces have to learn to accept that continual demands do not contribute to an expanding economy and therefore jobs for all.

    When I look back the first thing I see that has caused most of our problems has been differentials. That is the difference between each rung in the ladder of success. In its early stages the percentage difference was not that great but twenty/thirty/forty yearts on the percentage difference is quite unsustainably huge and cannot continue.

    The results therefore have been that those at the top have vastly surpassed those at the bottom, the end result being demand for more. And if we add to that factor the simple but expensive promise that any business will pay out a pension at retirement for as long as the ex-employee lives is also quite unsustainable especially where business is large in terms of employees never forgetting also that most small businesses just can't make any such provision.

    Governments for too long have kidded the voter that paradise is just around the corner whilst accumulating vast debt to cover what it could never deliver, the surprising thing being that none ever seem to address the problem until it comes to the lower end voter squealing like pigs as in percentage terms it affects them more so than others. And when they take to the streets the costs go up, the debt gets bigger and the problem worse.

    And so it goes on that whoever it is that holds the IOU's gets more and more powerful. This happens to be a world-wide phenomenan and how we bring an end to it is the sixtyfour dollar question. Find them and close them down. Stop differentials immediately and close down pension schemes is but part of the answer but not all. People have to be educated that they can only have what business can generate in the profit stakes. Do all those things and watch the difference as time passes.

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    A global currency.
    The experiences from implementing the euro in Europe could be could be used to avoid some of the pitfalls in the implementation of this.
    You could try to come up with some details of how this should supposedly function. Would it need gold reserves to be balanced or could it be "it's own gold standard" with prices fluctuating relative to its absolute value.
    Maybe it should be based on US$ or € or yuan originally, or maybe totally independent to begin with.

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    Recolonise Africa and plunder it's resources while destroying it's population: removes a large and poorly developed chunk of the world (thereby making the world more economically developed on average) and giving the rich and powerful states extra resources with which to stimulate trade. The need to extract these resources would generate a large amount of business.

    (Note: I went on the fact that the OP said I didn't need to consider morality at all when answering )

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    Kill anybody whose welfare needs aren't being met. It won't really solve anything, but it'll make the statistics look nicer.
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    Direct slavery for the underclasses in return for their upkeep. They can opt out in which case they starve if they don't work. If you opt out of the slavery program and then become a criminal you are put back into the slavery program with no opt out. Those in the slavery program who do not do their assigned work do not eat that day.

    All slaves will be marked with a implanted GPS identifier which will monitor every movement. This will discourage criminal activity, encourage work, and prevent many crimes just by their nature.

    The undesirables, those whos criminal and violent natures cause multiple problems, will be eliminated.
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