Dale, Castles and Squalor.

**jhwhite** · January 30, 2011, 04:15 PM

Hi Guys,

Enjoying my third age campaign as Dale but I'm having a problem trying to upgrade my Castles. I have both Uldonavan and Araw but neither of their populations are increasing due to too much squalor (or not enough good stuff). I have all the upgrades for each and obviously I can't change the tax levels, so what do I do? I know that some Generals have attributes that can help increase the population but I have one of those generals in Uldonavan now and he's just keeping the population stable.

I hope there is a way to change this cause I won't be able to get the good late game units the Dale get

**waffleman_yay** · January 30, 2011, 05:21 PM

Where is King Bard? I literally had this issue yesterday and resolved it by having Bard first in Uldonavan and then Araw, since i wanted a fortress before another castle.

**jhwhite** · January 30, 2011, 05:29 PM

Having looked through my generals, they nearly all have attributes that increase squalor. Only a couple that don't, I've cheated slightly as you can pass some retinues from one general to another. So I've passed the positive farming and negative squalor retinues to the generals without increasing squalor attributes. It works, but I'm only getting about 0.5% increase in each. Weirdly nearly all retinues pass except for elf friend, which also helps with farming.

**Loco Mike** · January 30, 2011, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by jhwhite

Having looked through my generals, they nearly all have attributes that increase squalor. Only a couple that don't, I've cheated slightly as you can pass some retinues from one general to another. So I've passed the positive farming and negative squalor retinues to the generals without increasing squalor attributes. It works, but I'm only getting about 0.5% increase in each. Weirdly nearly all retinues pass except for elf friend, which also helps with farming.

Passing retinues from one General to another is not a cheat, its a function of the game

As you've notice with the Elf friend, only some can be pasted bewteen generals.

**jhwhite** · January 30, 2011, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Loco Mike

Passing retinues from one General to another is not a cheat, its a function of the game

As you've notice with the Elf friend, only some can be pasted bewteen generals.

Well it kind of feels like cheating to me lol.

I know it would make things even easier, but if the retinue also stayed with the previous character then at least it would feel as if he had taught the new character. If it was the case, maybe a restriction on how many a turn would work.

**TCMIV** · January 30, 2011, 06:20 PM

Retinues are generally physical items like rings or people (elf friend is literally a friend who is an elf). So it makes sense that you could pass them to other people.

**Loco Mike** · January 30, 2011, 06:21 PM

" A retinue is a body of persons "retained" in the service of a noble or royal personage "

Passing them around, is nothing more than canceling a serivce & passing it over to someone else

Are you wanting the benefits to stay with the first general, after passing the retinue over to a new one.... if so that would feel like cheating to me