[EB AAR] Koinon Hellenon: Athens X Sparta (.org X TWCenter), a participative AAR - Sparte

[Gotenus]

I agree with all of Ranger Blue proposals.

[Molina]

The council session for 270BC is now over. An update will be made soon.

I have to say I'm very happy with an entire page of participation, thanks guys!

[Molina]

270 BC

Athenian orders:
-Attack the Macedonians immediatly, attempting to capture Chalkis (Yes).
-Hire a fleet to eventually attack Asia Minor (Not yet).
-Only allow the Alliance Army to pass through Attika (Yes).
-Trade rights and Alliance with the Epeirotai (Yes)
-Trade rights with Karthadast and Roma (Not yet).
-Ceasefire with Basileion ton Pontos (Yes).

Spartan orders:
-Engage the Macedonians to the north of Attika with the Alliance Army (Yes).
-Besiege Demetrias if possible (Not yet).
-Improve recruitment in Sparta, attempting not to rely on Athenian cavalry (Yes).
-Strenghten alliance with Corinth (Yes).
-Trade rights with Epeiros (Yes).
-Fleet should be built only in Rhodes (Not yet).
-Peace with Pontos (Yes).

(I'm sorry if you feel your orders deserved to but didn't make to the final list, some orders were conflicting and I had to leave them out. I also think it's nice to both cities to have a summary on what the other one is doing, allows for more interaction rather than each doing their own thing.)

By the end of the winter, Chremonides recieved orders from Athens to assault Chalkis.


He did so, but against his will.


The Macedonians had sent reinforcements, and now outnumbered the Athenians by a lot.


But the Athenians, even outnumbered, were ready to fight.








In a bloody battle, the Athenian army was almost completely wiped out, but managed to conquer Chalkis.





Later, after the region was pacified Chremonides would write to the Athenian Council asking what kind of relationship Athens and the Alliance would have with Chalkis.


Meanwhile, in Asia Minor, a treaty was signed with Pontos.




Back in Athenai, a small Macedonian army besieged the city.


Due to the almost total elimination of the Athenian forces in the siege of Chalkis and their necessity to remain in the city as garrison, there was no opposition to the Alliance Army, led by a Spartan, to march through Attike, as the council ordered - and while at it, defend Athens.


Since the Spartan army wouldn't go anywhere, Areus brought some of the Spartans with him in the Alliance Army. The Alliance Army attacked the besiegers of Athens, who were not many. Certainly the Macedonians expected the Athenian garrison to be low on men, but they did not expect the Alliance Army led by Sparta.











As agreed upon by both Athens and Sparta, the Epeirotes were seeked out.


And a profitable deal was made with the son of Pyrrhos.


Hopefully the army of Pyrrhos would help the Hellenes in the future.


In Korinthos, the Spartan Hegemon ordered public buildings and strengthened the relations between Sparta and Corinth.


Although there was still the matter of the nature of these relations.


In Sparta itself, the military recruitment structure was improved, as ordered by the Spartan council.


In the North, the Macedonians besieged Serdike.


And in Rhodes, Agathokles died of old age.


This is the situation of the Koinon Hellenon as of now, winter of the year 270BC.


The Spartan Gerousia session is now open to decide what must be done in 269BC.

[Populus Romanus]

Men of Sparte! Today we have recieved excellent news! The Athenai have crushed two Makedonian armies and cannibalised their bodies (not really), and the Army of the Koinoin, under the leadership of Areus and accompanied by the Army of Sparte has marched into Attike and crushed a third Makedonian army besieging Athenai itself. This is indeed great news! However, this news is accompanied by bad news as well. The Army of Athenai has been gutted in the brutal Battle of Chalkis, and no one could seriously call it an effective fighting force while it is in its current state. Taking this in mind, the Athenai are crippled and immobilized at least for the next year. That leaves but one option: Sparte must take the offensive! Men, now is the time to steel yourselves for the coming darkness. We march to battle! Now the Army of Sparte must march at the head of the Combined Armies of Korinthos, Rhodos, and the Allies in the Army of the Koinoin on to Demetrias. The Army of the Koinoin must strike while the iron is hot! If we allow the Makedonian dogs any time to recover from their crippling defeat, they will. But for now, they are helpless before our triumphant Armies, and will flee before us like the Barbaroi they truly are. The ratio of the Army of the Koinoin to the garrison of Demetrias is almost 1:1--hardly a fair fight! The Makedonians are easy pickings, the Army of the Koinoin just has to get there first, lest the hounds of Epeiros, Barbaroi themselves, claim them before us. Men of Sparte, I have one more proposition for you today. The Athenai have liberated Chalkis. I believe that in order to show their loyalty to the Koinoin, these new members must levy an Army of Chalkis. However, due to the fact that will take at least a year to conscript, equip, and train the new recruits, and that the distances between the soon-to-be Army of Chalkis and Demetrias, where the Army of the Koinoin will be spending the rest of 269 BC are too great to traversed, the Army of Chalkis should be placed under the command of the Army of Athenai when it becomes operationally viable.
Men of Spate: TO VICTORY!

I PROPOSE that the Army of the Koinoin immediately march on Demetrias.
I PROPOSE that the Army of Chalkis be levied and placed under Athenai command.

[Diomede]

I DISAGREE on levying an army of Chalkis. It appears the Athenians shall be taking a unilitaral decision in what relationship they shall have with the rest of the league, and it would be unwise to preempt them. While I have no desire to see Athenians choose how we ourselves should treat the Poleis, I suppose we must accept it. It is their conquered town to administrate, after all. Perhaps, in time, we can allocate the Alliance Army's resources to such an affair. For now, let us beseige Demetrias as I AGREE. However, I PROPOSE that an adequate defensive position is retained should the poleis be reinforced, as it surely must.

I PROPOSE that we build a type II structure within Korinthos, not least due to it being the capitol place of administration for lesser poleis such as Olympia and the cowardly city of Argos.

[Populus Romanus]

Wise Diomede, I must point out to the Council that it would surely be impossible to reinforce Demetrias before we could take it. Demetrias is a mere seasons march from the current location of the Army of the Koinoin, and so would be impossible to bring in any nearby forces, of which there are none, nor bulk up its garrison. Also, the Makedonians main Field Army is up in the Thrakia to the far North besieging Serdike, far to distant to be brought up to bear against the Army of the Koinoin before Demetrias is captured. Why bother providing for extra defences when there is no possible threat to our situation. As of now, Hellas is our oyster. But is definitavely agreed upon that a Type II government shall be constructed in Korinthos. How could our fellow Hellenes be left without government? How are they to be loyal if we do not even give them a ruler? Wise Diomede, I wholeheartedly agree with you suggestion. Men of Sparte: TO VICTORY!

*roaring applause*

I DISAGREE with PROPOSAL 1
I AGREE with PROPOSAL 2

[Diomede]

Their main field army, yes, but what of their other army? Where is our spy nowadays, at any rate? We should bolster our espionage activities.

[Molina]

Their main field army, yes, but what of their other army? Where is our spy nowadays, at any rate? We should bolster our espionage activities.

I forgot the spy in Crete .

The Demetrias situation is a tough one indeed. I would suggest the Spartan Army merges with the Alliance Army in order to guarantee a victory against Macedon. The Spartan men may leave the Alliance Army and form the Spartan Army once again if necessary.

It is the decision of Sparta, though, and I would like to hear the opinion of more Spartan councilors on this matter.

[jirisys]

I forgot the spy in Crete .

The Demetrias situation is a tough one indeed. I would suggest the Spartan Army merges with the Alliance Army in order to guarantee a victory against Macedon. The Spartan men may leave the Alliance Army and form the Spartan Army once again if necessary.

It is the decision of Sparta, though, and I would like to hear the opinion of more Spartan councilors on this matter.

Neither the Ally nor the Spartan army can traverse through Attike, only in order to defend it (and only the Ally army), as we are not marching down in Lakonike are we now?

~Jirisys (Athenai)

[Diomede]

The best defense is a good offense. To defend Athenai and the rest of Greece we shall remove the closest threat to them.

Nay, Rhodes is not your jurisdiction. Rhodes is Rhodes' jurisdiction.

[jirisys]

The best defense is a good offense. To defend Athenai and the rest of Greece we shall remove the closest threat to them.

Nay, Rhodes is not your jurisdiction. Rhodes is Rhodes' jurisdiction.

You have a navy to traverse through the sea? You cannot traverse Attike, only to defend Athenai when we ask to, and in OUR conditions, because it's OUR land.

If you so wish, conquer Thermon and go around...

Then stop trying to impose a governor in there, besides, the Rhodoi support Athenai.

~Jirisys ()

[ArtoriusRex]

Nikolas stood, thoughts collected, and marched up to the center of the room and stood beside Diomede, gazing with cold eyes down at the Athenian visitor

"If I recall correctly only the Army of Sparta is forbidden entry to the territory of Athens. So what you suggest is for us to remove the man in charge of the Alliance Army in order to march through your lands simply because he is a Spartan? What foolishness is this! And you, Athenian, meddle in our afairs far more than you let on. What is that? You claim you do not know what I am talking about? Let me refresh your memory. Two years ago we allowed you to stay here on your personal oath that you would not spy. And yet while I was in Athens on my way back here I searched through their own Council records..."

With a tundering roar Nikolas pointed an accusatory finger at the grumbling Athenian "It was you Jirisys who suggested and most violently upheld the orders that Sparta not be let into Athenian territory and who executed personally Populus' servant in front of the Council for suggesting that we Spartans march to your aid. It was you who admitted in front of the entier Council of Athens that your intentions are for the glory of Athens alone. Those men you said were for the defense of the polis, where are the now? They rot in shallow graves outside Chalkis! And the refusal to let us through Athenian territory was not only your idea, but an attempt at earning Athens all the glory of conquering the Macedonians. Well I ask you this; what has your scheming earned Athens other than 319 grieving families? Your actions have weakened us all for the sake of personal glory; well I say this. Men of Sparta, will we stand for such treachery? Will we stand for such dishonesty and greed? Let this man, and all Athenians, be cast from this hall, and never be permitted to speak again!" Nikolas remained standing, staring in hatred and disgust at Jirisys and waiting while the men of Sparta decided his fate.

Law Proposal (The Polis Politics Management Act): The expulsion of all Athenians from any Spartan assembly, and the detainment of Jirisys until the Council decides his fate.

[ArtoriusRex]

Nikolas rushed into the hall, huffing, puffing, and attempting to conceal a limp in his left leg earned over the past year. He quickly bowed, and sought out Populus and greeted him kindly, having heard, while he was gone, of Populus' support for his idea. He limped to the center of the floor and called out

"Men of Sparta! We have won a great victory this day! I tell you this, for I was there. I stood shoulder to shoulder with Commander Areus and defended his life with my own. You may know this by regarding the mural of the great victory. When looking upon the fresco which depicts Areas marching boldy towards the Macedonians, look to his left. You see that warrior? Does he appear familiar? He should! He stands before you here, advising you again as to what we should do next. On my way here this day I saw the new barracks being built, and was told that when they were finnished they would be able to train heavy hoplites, similar to those who held the line in the siege of Chalkis. However I have also heard the news that the governor of Rhodes has gone to join his fathers. We must find a man to replace him immeadiately!"

He shook his head sadly "I do not enjoy the lesson we have forced onto those proud Athenians. It is not good to see what was left in light of their own stubborness, but perhaps they will listen to the advice of Sparta in the future. Until then, we must hope that Athens acts wisely when it comes to relations between themselves and the polis of Chalkis. However, we have a similar matter on hand; how are we to treat Corinth? Do we beat them into submission and treat them like conqured lands, or welcome them as an allied province? I for one, am going to sugest that we allow them to join as full members of the Alliance, let them join as an allied province." He stopped to catch his breath but continued quickly

"But the matter is what does the Alliance Army do next? I believe that if we strike now then the Macedonians will be unaware, and Demitrias will go down without much of a fight. In the meantime we should build up the army in Sparta itself and send them to the Army of Sparta, until the time comes that our barracks our complete. When the barracks are complete we should recruit a few units of heavy hoplites and send them to the Alliance army; with such a force on hand, we shall surely be able to take on the Macedonians and continue to push north." Nikolas, tired and attempting to gather his thoughts, sat down close to the front of the Council, and waited to see what would happen next.

SUMMARY:

I Agree ...: That we should attack Demitrias at once.

Proposal 1: Find a new governor for Rhodes.

Proposal 2: Establish Corinth as an Allied Province.

Proposal 3: Recruit the most powerful infantry we can in Sparta to reinforce the Spartan Army. Then when we can recruit heavy hoplites send some north as reinforcements for the Allied Army.

[jirisys]

I Agree ...: That we should attack Demitrias at once.

Proposal 1: Find a new governor for Rhodes.

You have a navy to go around the aegean? Only army that can be in Attike or traverse in it; is the Ally army, and only to defend Athenai.

Rhodes is our jurisdiction, not yours, we will appoint a new governor if needed.

~Jirisys (AOE)

[Beckitz]

The past two years had not been kind to old man Epidamnus' health; he was now attended to at all times by a trained physician, and had taken to erupting into violent fits of coughing for hours at a time. Even so, there was nothing in the world that could keep him from voicing his mind to the people of Sparta; having missed the previous year's council, he was determined to be present for this one.

Slowly, painfully the old man rose to his feet, leaning his weight on his cane as he held out the other hand towards Nikolas; a toothless smile began to spread across Epidamnus' face. "At last," he wheezed, "a man worthy of being called a Spartan! I agree with your proposal, Nikolas, and urge all members of this council to support it."

"Citizens," he continued, his frail figure heaving with the effort of speech, "do not so easily squander the strength we have built for ourselves. If the Athenians think they can manage without us, let them try! We ought to pull the armies of Sparta back from campaign, and leave the Athenians to fend for themselves. In time, they will see the folly of trying to tie our hands behind our back! They will beg for us to save them - and when we do, all of Hellas will know where power truly rests it's head!"

[ArtoriusRex]

The old warrior regarded Old Man Epidammus kindly and helped him back to his seat, whispering words of thanks. Nikolas bared his teeth in a wolf-like grin, his cold gaze not leaving Jirisys' face. His voice came forth, dangerously quiet

"Aye, we agreed to a proposal stating that the Spartan forces would be denied entry to Athenian lands. But there was no condition that the Alliance army would only march to defend the Athenians in their territory save in your records; we Spartans, until I read the pages from your Council, had no knowledge of such a condition. But you also agreed not to spy for Athens. For any who doubt the truth of all I've said read the records of the Council of Athens! You speak of me being a fool, and of wishing us to tax your people. But if you listened you would see that our next intentions is to march north, out of your territory, and then take a Macedonian city. Then whose supplies would we take? By your insistence that we, who are in command of the Alliance Army, cannot leave your land you are causing this hardship on your own people, as well as taking for yourself powers which belong only to Chremondies. I myself have read that you muse that you would make a better leader than Chremondies, are we then to listen to you, damned out of your own mouth and plotting for your own gain? Also you forget that I) You killed Populus' representative at the Council of Athens, and II) That it was us, the Spartans, who saved your precious Athens in its time of need, it was the Alliance army, led by our king, who saved all of your Council's lives, including your own. You would do well to remember that, and at the least offer us the freedom our king's position entails as well as a season's worth of hospitality."

Nikolas swore violently as he realized that while he was speaking, having been carried away by his anger, a messenger had entered and taken away the scrolls for this session of the Spartan Council Assembly. He stomped off and went to find his horse, hoping to get back to his king Areas and inform him of all that had happened and await what orders will come next.

[Molina]

This session of the Spartan council is now dismissed.

[jirisys]

Farewell...
We appretiated your help very much...
It seems you only we athenians need to sacrifice ourselves for this alliance to work...
I will say no more, but a sincere thank you...

*whistles to a slave to get him his horse*

Farwell.

~Jirisys (*coconuts bashing*)

[ArtoriusRex]

Nikolas came back into the hall to say farewell to his supporters and friends, only to hear of what that bloody Athenian had said. Fool! Did he not remember that most of the men who went to their deaths in Chalkis were from Sparta; given to Athens for their time of need? Did he not forget that it was Spartan blood that stained the ground outside Athens itself along with the blood of Macedonians? Fool! Spartans sacrifice themselves just as much as Athenians. For they only give planning and money, we Spartans give life and limb.

[Populus Romanus]

crap.