A Special Tribunal For The Albanian OHZ's?

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

In the light of the yesterdays resolution of the Council of Europe's Parliamentary Assembly...

Council of Europe demands Kosovo, Albania investigate organ

...a question arises how to further proceed this case, in a situation when a large portion of political power structures in the 'West' - those same structures that invented and installed the rule of Albanian Organ Harvesting Zombie's regime in the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metoheeya - would rather see this case reaching a dead end and all the 'media fuss' about in fading away.

Seeing how the 'international community', that is her NATO - KFOR and EULEX missions on the ground, in occupation of Serbia, seem reluctant to seriously investigate the case of Albanian Organ Harvesting operation in Kosovo&Metoheeya and Republic of Albania, and the Albanian 'officials' in the Serbian province certainly ain't gonna do it, the Swiss investigator Dick Marty proposes for an ad hoc tribunal to be set up for the purpose of prosecution of the Albanian Organ Harvesting Zombies, namely the so called "PM of Kosovo" and his closest ring of associates.

Marty: EULEX powerless, ad hoc structure needed

Needless to say, I personally would prefer them standing trial in Serbia, but for the time being that is unfortunately impossible.

So what do you think? Should an ad hoc tribunal be established?

[il padrino]

Anything is better than them being free.But i personally doubt that any tribunal established by the "west" will be entirely free of any pressure.Just look at the Hague.

[Armenum]

Maybe off-topic, but still why does is Serbia going closer with EU, and Western structures? After how much NATO, and other European countries screwed Serbia with the Kosovo issue, I would expect Serbia to get closer to Russia and CSTO, rather than EU.

[Војвода Драгутин Кесеровић]

Maybe off-topic, but still why does is Serbia going closer with EU, and Western structures? After how much NATO, and other European countries screwed Serbia with the Kosovo issue, I would expect Serbia to get closer to Russia and CSTO, rather than EU.

Serbia currently has a NATO-puppet regime installed, that's why.... and due to the general geo-political situation and all, it'll probably take at least 3 to 5 years for the genuine Serbian elite, those are the Serbian people, to overthrow this clique and bring the country to its proper cultural-political course. That would be getting closer and closer to "EurAsian integrations", as you correctly observed.

For now, we have a schizoid situation where overwhelming majority of Serbs prefer Serbian territorial integrity to EU membership - 52% of them put their money on that by voting in 2009. - but than political parties get blackmailed by foreign embassies in BG and betray this vote, and create a puppet gov.

Anyway, Russia plays her cards in Serbia superbly for now, and I'm confident that have the situation under control in terms of providing support for the Serbian people, the future elite of Serbia, rather than to quasi elites of NATO-puppets....

So, back to the tribunal issue. I'm in total agreement with Mr. Marty, when he says: "Eulex, in it's today capacity, has no potential to investigate the case..." of Albanian Organ Harvesting Zombies...

But I'm also worried whether this ad hoc new tribunal would turn out to be something of a hoax, like ITCY, where important evidence of Albanian Organ Harvesting operations were DELIBERATELY DESTROYED by the ITCY staff, and cowardly ICJ, whose judges practice law under the dictate of western powers...

[Armenum]

I always thought how different things would be,if only we bordered Russia,just like Armenia does...

To answer your question,i know,it's very stupid to build closer ties with the people that wishes you no good,but you must know that EU propaganda is very strong in Serbia.Most people think "Serbia in EU=all evil disappears,heaven on earth,3000$ wages" etc.. And yeah,i agree with clandestino that the "West" is the only one trying and investing money in us,in order to "buy" us.Russia is doing almost nothing,unfortunately.

Well we don't border Russia, unfortunately, and our only route to Russia is through Georgia, as which you may guess is rather difficult. That's why we have very good relations with Georgia, recently Saakashvili was in Armenia, and he called the Armenian president his "brother".

Armenia is only Russian ally in Caucasus and thus much more important then Serbia, even so it's aids to Armenia or anyone else can't even remotely match USA aid to Israel or, more recently, Georgia and Kosovo, which received billions of dollars from USA and EU in last 10 years. Of course USA has luxury to print as much as $$ as it wants and give it away to buy friendships while Russia has limited sources and thus limited influence. So the answer is: Serbia needs money in all its shapes and aspects, EU has it and wants to give it, Russia doesn't have it or doesn't want to give it, thus Serbia hurls itself to EU.

Serbia currently has a NATO-puppet regime installed, that's why.... and due to the general geo-political situation and all, it'll probably take at least 3 to 5 years for the genuine Serbian elite, those are the Serbian people, to overthrow this clique and bring the country to its proper cultural-political course. That would be getting closer and closer to "EurAsian integrations", as you correctly observed.

For now, we have a schizoid situation where overwhelming majority of Serbs prefer Serbian territorial integrity to EU membership - 52% of them put their money on that by voting in 2009. - but than political parties get blackmailed by foreign embassies in BG and betray this vote, and create a puppet gov.

Anyway, Russia plays her cards in Serbia superbly for now, and I'm confident that have the situation under control in terms of providing support for the Serbian people, the future elite of Serbia, rather than to quasi elites of NATO-puppets....

Even though we are allies of Russia, we also pursue a policy of complimentary politics. Meaning, that while we maintain good relations with Russia, we have very close political/economic contacts with EU, as government has declared European integration the number 1 priority in foreign policy and we are working towards association agreement, we have good relations with USA and receive tons of aid from them, and are listed in the top countries in aid from US, we also have 2nd biggest US embassy in the world, even though our country is only 3 million, we have good relations with Iran, especially economic, and brotherly relations with Greece and Cyprus of course. We even have hosted a couple of NATO exercises in Armenia, and have deep cooperation with them. So strategically we are with Russia, politically with EU, economically EU and Russia. We are not Belarus or Kazakhstan that pursue a policy all geared towards Russia.

It's worked well for us this kind of politics; and while I think Serbia should get closer to Russia/CSTO and maintain friendship with its traditional friends like Greece and even Armenia (many Armenians support Serbia), but it should still maintain political/economic contacts with EU, after-all they are right at your border.

[DobroVece]

Being a weak country Serbia must try and link up with every possible power center, EU, US, Russia, China, no mater. Kind of game that Tito used to play. Especially that being close to Russia haven't really helped Milosevic that much. I think Russia is just solving their own problems, and don't have much potential to bare someone else burdens. Of course Serbia being closer to east or west is not that important in standing up for what is right in the world relations, meaning that rational countries will always be against secessions and one sided solutions.

Now, as for investigation, looking at the past it will be really hard to see the end of this. Witnesses report is on Council's agenda tomorrow, so we'll see. Ceku trial, and Thaci openly threatening the witnesses immediately comes in mind as reasons to be skeptic for now. Albanian government behavior in the past and present, also. Will it be convenient enough for countries involved to work this through? Will they stand by as their faults of the past emerge? I honestly don't know...

[clandestino]

Cause we are surrounded by EU and NATO and not by Russia and CSTO, also joining EU means getting some money from its funds, something that we can hardly expect from Russia. Unlike USA Russia doesn't have custom to shower it potential allies with money and weapons, which is its greatest mistake by my opinion.

[Armenum]

Cause we are surrounded by EU and NATO and not by Russia and CSTO, also joining EU means getting some money from its funds, something that we can hardly expect from Russia. Unlike USA Russia doesn't have custom to shower it potential allies with money and weapons, which is its greatest mistake by my opinion.

As Russian ally and CSTO member, Armenia gets weapons at a heavily discounted price, including the well known S-300 long range missiles. They also protect our borders with Turkey and Iran, and hold a strategic military base. Given we are bordered by Turkey and Azerbaijan, it's a good deal.

4,000th post, yeah!

[il padrino]

As Russian ally and CSTO member, Armenia gets weapons at a heavily discounted price, including the well known S-300 long range missiles. They also protect our borders with Turkey and Iran, and hold a strategic military base. Given we are bordered by Turkey and Azerbaijan, it's a good deal.

4,000th post, yeah!

I always thought how different things would be,if only we bordered Russia,just like Armenia does...

To answer your question,i know,it's very stupid to build closer ties with the people that wishes you no good,but you must know that EU propaganda is very strong in Serbia.Most people think "Serbia in EU=all evil disappears,heaven on earth,3000$ wages" etc.. And yeah,i agree with clandestino that the "West" is the only one trying and investing money in us,in order to "buy" us.Russia is doing almost nothing,unfortunately.

[clandestino]

As Russian ally and CSTO member, Armenia gets weapons at a heavily discounted price, including the well known S-300 long range missiles. They also protect our borders with Turkey and Iran, and hold a strategic military base. Given we are bordered by Turkey and Azerbaijan, it's a good deal.

Armenia is only Russian ally in Caucasus and thus much more important then Serbia, even so it's aids to Armenia or anyone else can't even remotely match USA aid to Israel or, more recently, Georgia and Kosovo, which received billions of dollars from USA and EU in last 10 years. Of course USA has luxury to print as much as $$ as it wants and give it away to buy friendships while Russia has limited sources and thus limited influence. So the answer is: Serbia needs money in all its shapes and aspects, EU has it and wants to give it, Russia doesn't have it or doesn't want to give it, thus Serbia hurls itself to EU.

[DobroVece]

That's the general idea.

Anyway, Albanian war crimes investigation...

[Heinz Guderian]

In relation to this alleged Organ Harvesting and lack of investigation from western Europe vis-a-vis the Albanian-Kosova-Serbia nexus, which side are Slavs?

[DobroVece]

Huh?

[il padrino]

http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...046726,00.html

For the longest time, Kosovo Prime Minister Hashim Thaci and other top Kosovar politicians enjoyed an unchallenged reputation as war heroes, thanks to their roles in an armed uprising by the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA) that helped end violent Serb rule in 1999 and paved the way for independence nine years later. Now that image is shattered, as Thaci and other leading authorities find themselves accused of grave crimes that include the harvesting and trafficking of the organs of murdered prisoners. An official investigation into the allegations has just been launched. But in Kosovo's climate of witness intimidation, the investigation seems to have stalled before it's even started.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...#ixzz1DeraT69T