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The Homeland Security Department is being accused of being like the Gestapo. I doubt the guy who made this claim (Harry Belafonte) even knows what the Gestapo is. This is absurd!
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Homeland Security the same as the Gestapo?
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The Homeland Security Department is being accused of being like the Gestapo. I doubt the guy who made this claim (Harry Belafonte) even knows what the Gestapo is. This is absurd!
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no kidding, even as a leftist, I can say that whoever wrote this is nuts
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Well, if it were true, he'd be in a dank basement recieving some......treatment.
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Exactly.Originally Posted by Corporal_Hicks
I can say whatever I like about Bush. I could appear on national television and call him a lying, scheming bastard - would I 'disappear'? No.
Could the Germans under Hitler say the same? Or the Russians under Stalin?
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I was about to say Justinian, if this were Soviet Russia, you would've been secretly sntached away 10 minutes after writing that and would've never been heard from again.
It is in my belief that rights of Americans are being sacrificed, inalienable rights given to us by the Constitution by fair and righteous men, for our so called 'protection.' All this country is doing is spying on it's own citizens with illegal wiretaps and the such, with the government supplying no plausible reason as to why. It has been common practice for Bush to justify unjustifible acts and pass them off as what's in the best interest of the American people. No doubt, it's in the best interest of the American people...those Americans who fall on Bush's side of the fence. I wouldn't go so far as to say Homeland Security is the Gestapo, but it still disgusts me to see what the US has become and will never be the same country I was born in. More a police state rather than the beacon of freedom to the world it's portrayed as.
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Being accused by Harry Belafonte is actually a good thing imo, the guy has made so many outlandish comments thru out the years that he has zero credibility.
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but it helps the dems because there are enough morons in the United States that will start believing that. and never fly on an airplane again because the homeland security guys will take them away for having a blue suitcase or Kerry bumpersticker
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and this is his role as the coadjutor he is
just like the hollywood crowd, they creep out of the woodwork to make some "outlandish" comments that are basically true , but coming from "extreme leftists" bill o'reilly can then get on tv and generalize anyone who makes such claims as being "anti-american" and "leftist".
when you consolidate power, crooks will always seize it, it's that simple
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Homeland Security indeed uses Gestapo tactics.
Much in the same way that I live like Hitler because I enjoy waking up late and reading newspapers in the morning.
So your saying the average American voter is an idiot?
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I would say the average voter of any country is uniformed, but not an idiot per se.
I think that sums it up pretty nicely...Homeland Security indeed uses Gestapo tactics.
Much in the same way that I live like Hitler because I enjoy waking up late and reading newspapers in the morning.
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Absolutely. As Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."
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Cruel, heartless and true, classic Churchill.
None the less I'll let one of our Nations greatest founding fathers do the talking for me:
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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But yes, even though our government is taking steps that scarily seem to be heading up...down..side to side, the slippery slope of too much power (The ability to spy on citizens without warrants, the suspension of Habeas corpus), we are far from the fascist regime's of early 20th century europe.
Where we might be in 100 years if such tactics do not go away (As they did after WWII, or WWI..whichever used them)? There may be something to worry about. But not now.
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People accuse governments of using Gestapo tactics all the time. At least Belafonte didn't mention any black helicopters.
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ROFL, i've never heard of Homeland Security knocking of peoples doors and brining them to Nazi death camps.
This person is extremely paranoid.
My favorite quote. That applies more to the Patriot Act though, not to homeland security. I actually think homeland security is completely pointless, they are literally the exact same thing as the NSA."They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin
They should of just expanded the NSA but idiotic mindless politicians had to make Homeland Security to appease idiotic mindless voters who dont know that something like this allready existed. Push button politics and big government wastefulness at its finest. I'm tired of this big government tax spending congress we have.
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Harry Belefonte? I saw him making a speech yesterday, he was standing next to Hugo Chavez and was spewing what seemed like anti-american rhetoric at the venezualan crowd. He called Bush the biggest terrorist on the face of the Earth...
Yeah, I dont want democrats associated with this guy. Barack Obama said a thing or two concerning Harry Belefante, just like a good politician, he avoided calling anybody names and managed to denounce Harry's comparrison of the HSA to the gestapo, and managed to summarize the feelings that the american people have to deal with (well...those against bush anyway) all in a brief 2 minute speech. Barack also said he absolutely will not consider running for president or vice president in the year 2008. So yeah....whatever Barack says, I do.
But you dont have to tell me that a man standing next to Chavez, making the American people look even worse is not a good or smart man...I could figure that out all by my self.
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yeah but don't you know? the NSA doesn't exhist! *Is the sarcasm oozing out of my eyes yet?*
and all of this is why I'm anti-partisan the extreme democrats want to censor everything I buy for "the protection of the children" and the Republicans have already taken a number of my rights away, though they have been kind enough not to make sensless arrests that I've seen any proof of...yet.
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