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[RubiconDecision]

no longer interested in participating

[Gigantus]

Scripted events in the campaign script:
It all depends how the script is written. And it is not that someone makes use of it - it gets given (forcefully most of the time) to whoever has been specified. When it comes to yes\no events the AI can get a random change for the event to fire as 'yes'.

Money script for the AI:
Welcome to the search for the holy grail of scripting. To put it bluntly - you could give the AI 30.000 a round and he would still go bankrupt, the balancing is extremely difficult.

Effects for ancillaries:
There is a limited number of effects that can be used, unfortunately the explanation for my list is in German, but you might be able to use as a guideline.

LineOfSight   Sichtlinie (erhöht den   Feinderkennungsradius)       
LocalPopularity   Beliebtheit (verbessert die öffentliche Ordnung)       
Looting   % Bonus auf Beutegeld       
Loyalty   Loyalität       
Magic   Magie (Hexe)       
Mining   % Bonus auf Minenerträge       
MovementPoints   Bewegungspunkte (reduziert die Entfernung, die Armeen marschieren können)   1= 5% NavalCommand   Kommando auf See (Admiral)       
PersonalSecurity   persönliche Sicherheit (erhöht die Wahrscheinlichkeit, einen Anschlag   frühzeitig zu bemerken und zu vereiteln)       
Piety   Frömmigkeit       
PublicSecurity   öffentliche Sicherheit (erhöht die Wahrscheinlichkeit, feindliche Agenten   zu entdecken und zu ergreifen)       
Purity   Reinheit (Priest)       
Sabotage   Sabotage (Attentaeter)       
SiegeAttack   Kommando beim Angriff von Mauern       
SiegeDefence   Kommando bei der Verteidigung von Mauern       
SiegeEngineering   Baupunkte (erforderlich für den Bau von Belagerungsausrüstung)50=50   Punkte       Squalor   Verschmutzung (erhöht öffentliche Ordnung und Bevölkerungswachstum)       
Subterfuge   Agententalent (Spion\Spion)       
TaxCollection   % Bonus auf Steuereinnahmen       
Trading   % Bonus auf alle Handelserträge       
TrainingAgents   % Nachlass auf Kosten der Agentenausbildung 1=5%       
TrainingUnits   % Nachlass auf Kosten der Einheitenausbildung  1=5%       
TroopMorale   Kampfgeist für alle Truppen auf dem Schlachtfeld       
Unorthodoxy   Unorthodoxheit (Priest)       
Unrest   Unruhe (hat negative Auswirkungen auf die öffentliche Ordnung)       
Violence   Gewalt (??)

[Taiji]

But Taiji your code:
monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd CharacterIsLocal
...this only fires for the Human player. I want it to fire for all players.

Then you make the script 30 times bigger (assuming 30 factions) so it can cause problems for your AI... Your AI really needs more problems?

Plus technically that would make it an 'AI money script', but in reverse since it tries to bankrupt the AI. I would have thought perhaps that would make it seem even worse to you.

I've thought about an inflation script to deal with that. I saw that once, maybe in Deus Lo Vult?

Yes, Repman wrote a script for inflation which multiplies the effects of the costs scripts depending on the faction's treasury level.

[Taiji]

RubiconDecision, interesting idea

If I understand correctly then you'll have to do it in campaign_script.txt because you can't use script commands in EDCT or EDA.

For unique ancillaries this would do:

monitor_event FactionTurnEnd FactionIsLocal
and FactionwideAncillaryExists blah
add_money -500
end_monitor

Or for non-unique this:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd CharacterIsLocal
and AgentType family
and HasAncType blah
add_money -500
end_monitor

You might want to track these extra costs for the player though, money cheats aren't registered on the financial scroll. Probably best to use traits to track and represent it, or you can use popup events tied to a gui function. Hah or even just list the cost in the description for the ancillary, got a bit ahead of myself there...

[Taiji]

If you're determined to do it then you could do it like this:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
add_money -50
end_monitor

BTW it's no surprise that settlement mechanics strongly affects a settlement's financial output.

[CavalryCmdr]

The problem with the AI always going bankrupt is upkeep. The AI has no concept of upkeep to begin with and adding a script to increase upkeep will just make the problem worse. Best results would be to add in a check for human player and adjust upkeep there, for AI simply a single cost or free would be best.

[Gigantus]

If you're determined to do it then you could do it like this:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
add_money -50
end_monitor

BTW it's no surprise that settlement mechanics strongly affects a settlement's financial output.

Just to confirm: does add_money work in this way? I thought it required a faction entry.

[Taiji]

Yes it works that way.

[Gigantus]

Thanks

[Taiji]

Pleasure

[Gorrrrrn]

Q: could we use:

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
if CharFactionType england
add_money england -50
end_if

if CharFactionType france
add_money france 100
end_if

end_monitor

can we even test to see if a char is part of a faction that is AI controlled?

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
and CharFactionType england
and IsFactionAIControlled
add_money england -50

end_monitor

[Gigantus]

CharacterTurnEnd exports all these: nc_character_record, character_record, faction, region_id, character_type, settlement" - so it should be OK.

[Gorrrrrn]

Cheers Gig - opens up some interesting possibilities.

[Taiji]

It wouldn't work the way you have scripted it, Rozanov. Exports are not available in if statements. You need to find other 'I_' conditions, or make separate scripts.

[Gorrrrrn]

Thanks for pointing that out Taiji.

(my understanding of exporting things in this context is minimal - and that's probably an overstatement)

so these would work?

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
CharFactionType england

add_money england -50

end_monitor

plus

monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
CharFactionType france

add_money france 50

end_monitor

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monitor_event CharacterTurnEnd HasAncType academic_advisor
and I_IsFactionAIControlled england
and CharFactionType england

add_money england -50

end_monitor

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Has anyone done a simple guide to how "exports" things works in coding?
And how to know when to use:

and I_IsFactionAIControlled england

and when to use

and IsFactionAIControlled england

for example?

[Taiji]

Has anyone done a simple guide to how "exports" things works in coding?
And how to know when to use:

and I_IsFactionAIControlled england

and when to use

and IsFactionAIControlled england

for example?

I just did, there's nothing more to it.

It wouldn't work the way you have scripted it, Rozanov. Exports are not available in if statements. You need to find other 'I_' conditions, or make separate scripts.

In bold is the entire simple guide. You can use 'I_' conditions anywhere but you have to use them in if statements, it's really that simple.

If you are testing your ideas before asking questions then you can have the joy (plus other benefits) of discovering this stuff for yourself. The error message will tell you that the condition does not have the export it needs, it's obvious from there.

BTW it's going to be a lot faster to test the script and read the log, rather than post here and wait for a response. And especially when that response comes from someone who doesn't know and is also not bothering to test, as so often happens.

[Gigantus]

... and is also not bothering to test, as so often happens

Zing. If I had looked close enough I should have noticed the if statement. My bad.

[Taiji]

Well yes, but I was talking more generally. The main point being that asking questions here is often an obstacle to learning when testing is so quick and easy to do (put script in campaign_script, see script failed to load, check log, learn lesson.). Also personally I am far more likely to retain the important information if I test things. And of course information retained allows for better planning, creates opportunity for good ideas, etc.

I didn't mean to passive-aggressively single you out, Gigantus. Apologees if it came across that way. I think we're all inclined to offer our best guess, and you did show you were guessing by putting 'should', so you can't be blamed for anything IMO.

[Gigantus]

No offense taken, no apologies necessary. And you hit the nail on the head - testing and learning from the log is the way to go (that's how I got into it about a year ago). And taking some time to look through the docu demons gives some ideas as well. Not to forget the tutorials here.

[Gorrrrrn]

Interesting points Taiji, although as someone who can spend an entire evening trying to get something very simple to work, the idea it it easier and quicker to put in a script and test isn't always true.

Although I have learned things through that method, questions such as the difference between I_ statements and others isn't likely to emerge quickly from trial and error.
(And the docudemon entries are identical for I_IsFactionAIControlled and IsFactionAIControlled)

Whereas a simple heuristic: use I_ statement if inside an if / end_if condition loop is one I (and anyone else reading this) can grasp.

Thank you though for explaining it simply, it is sometimes what people need.