Do you think the fotos have been edited?

**Jabberdau** · January 21, 2006, 04:25 PM

A long time ago someone proved that the promotion pictures for RTW had indeed been edited or changed by messing with the game files to make it look better.
The first pictures for MTWII are taken in a resolution so high and with so much anti-aliasing that you can´t see any pixelation at all. There is something not looking right about the light in this picture, maybe its the fog:

http://www.tothegame.com/sshotfeat.a...een=6125&pic=2

The textures are unusually clear and crisp. Do you think they have tweaked the engine(beyond what a normal setting could do - messing with the game files) or done a bit of photoshopping?

**Basileos Leandros I** · January 21, 2006, 04:31 PM

Why do you think that?

**~~Scar Face~~** · January 21, 2006, 04:43 PM

Because it's highly highly likely and smart for a company to do that. And...they have done it before. Im no expert so I have no clue if they have, though it looks like it.

**Prof** · January 21, 2006, 04:44 PM

But maybe they are just making an amazing game!!

**Søren** · January 21, 2006, 04:49 PM

I'm slightly sceptical about the reflection on the breastplate (which I've circled)

**God-Emperor of Mankind** · January 21, 2006, 04:55 PM

Well they did say in the IGN interview that they have remade the engine completely.
I think the pics are real but naturally at a high setting.
While I doubt many people can run the game at that setting but still possible for some.

Edit: and as Archer said, that video of RTW was indeed completely CG and was never in-game shots that some people seem to think.
These however are not CG and does actually look like a improved RTW engine like they said they have done.

**Prof** · January 21, 2006, 05:19 PM

looks not faked to me. especially because the other knights have that reflection, too and like archer said it is easily achievable with the gloss files. for those who still don't believe that these screens are not edited should simply wait for the release

**HorseArcher** · January 21, 2006, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Jabberdau

A long time ago someone proved that the promotion pictures for RTW had indeed been edited or changed by messing with the game files to make it look better.
The first pictures for MTWII are taken in a resolution so high and with so much anti-aliasing that you can´t see any pixelation at all. There is something not looking right about the light in this picture, maybe its the fog:

http://www.tothegame.com/sshotfeat.a...een=6125&pic=2

The textures are unusually clear and crisp. Do you think they have tweaked the engine(beyond what a normal setting could do - messing with the game files) or done a bit of photoshopping?

The pre-video of RTW was all CG movie, with pre-rendered faces and basically had nothing to do with the graphics in RTW.

IN opposite, these screenshots aren't pre-rendered cg-movie shots (just think of Toy Story). Notice the horse saddles, the ear of the horses, or just the edges on the solders showing that these units were built from polygons. compare to RTW, of course these models are higher polygon count units, and more textures added, but definetely not pre-rendered movie shots. So I'm happy for that.
I actually hope (following how the earliest in-game shots of RTW to the latest), that the graphics will develop even farther. I won't be suprised, if the final graphical detail at the releae of the game, will be even more impressive.

I'm slightly sceptical about the reflection on the breastplate (which I've circled)

easily achieavable by gloss files. I can show you an example of my own modding.

see the breastplate of my hun general (my old hun invasion mod)

**Søren** · January 21, 2006, 05:24 PM

Seems I'm wrong then.

Which is under the circumstances, good news.

**Sarge_Scot** · January 21, 2006, 05:47 PM

Guys come on, the game won't be released for another year, so all the pics are probably juiced up a little because the game is still in early development. For those thinking that the pics are to shiny looking and such, this is a next-gen game.

**God-Emperor of Mankind** · January 21, 2006, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge_Scot

because the game is still in early development.

They said that they have been working on it for 6 years so it is hardly early development.

**Roman-Warrior** · January 21, 2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by TB666

They said that they have been working on it for 6 years so it is hardly early development.

Actually I know where you got that from, and you just missread it. They said they have been on a Total War Franchise for 6 years
witch has GOT them to the idea of Medieval Total War 2. I dont know of any game that has been under anyones head for 6 years and doesent
even have a gameplay video, come now.

Wes

**Elmar** · January 21, 2006, 09:27 PM

They could've photoshopped in some stirrups while they were at it. :wink:
All those debates about how classical cavalry couldn't charge home without stirrups and now that medieval times are revisited stirrups are still missing! Yee Gawds!

**saxonhero** · January 22, 2006, 06:34 AM

Originally Posted by Roman-Warrior

Actually I know where you got that from, and you just missread it. They said they have been on a Total War Franchise for 6 years
witch has GOT them to the idea of Medieval Total War 2. I dont know of any game that has been under anyones head for 6 years and doesent
even have a gameplay video, come now.

Wes

Duke Nukem Forever?

**KingOfTheIsles** · January 22, 2006, 03:27 PM

Yup, there's a leg disappearing into a horse on another knight, too. Clipping issues=ingame screenshots! :original:

It looks great!

**Sylver** · January 22, 2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by Roman-Warrior

Actually I know where you got that from, and you just missread it. They said they have been on a Total War Franchise for 6 years
witch has GOT them to the idea of Medieval Total War 2. I dont know of any game that has been under anyones head for 6 years and doesent
even have a gameplay video, come now.

Wes

I think Duke Nukem Forever fits that bill. Apparently been developing for 7 or so years now, and not a single screen or movie.

**Timotheus Londinium** · January 21, 2006, 10:09 PM

Originally Posted by TB666

They said that they have been working on it for 6 years so it is hardly early development.

RTW has been in development since MTW was released, perhaps even earlier, and still they used pre-rendered CG shots in Rome's promotion.

**O'brien the Protector** · January 21, 2006, 05:59 PM

im sure they didnt edit anything, becuase most companies claim that all thier screenshtos are directly from the game. But at the same time Im sure they are running the game at settings that no one here will be able to ( ultra high resolutions, every setting pumped up, etc.)