Most theist and atheits world-views are only based on believe / what they heard from others!

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Or has anyone own thoughts, that don't rely on what was read or hear? Probably not.

[DekuTrash]

atheits?

[Gaidin]

Or has anyone own thoughts, that don't rely on what was read or hear? Probably not.

I think I'll wait for you to back up your point so that I actually know what you're trying to say.

[Copperknickers II]

Or has anyone own thoughts, that don't rely on what was read or hear? Probably not.

Of course, or do you expect us to make up thoughts off the top of our heads? Why should we not believe a well argued opinion? You are not a very good judge if you are not influenced by others' opinions, the important thing is that you see the difference between a well argued opinion and an insubstantially argued yet sensational opinion.

[TransFax]

Of course, or do you expect us to make up thoughts off the top of our heads? Why should we not believe a well argued opinion? You are not a very good judge if you are not influenced by others' opinions, the important thing is that you see the difference between a well argued opinion and an insubstantially argued yet sensational opinion.

@ "a well argued opinion":
A well argued opinion; does that include a "god" causing the universe or an "big bang" causing such? What do physicist actually say? I'm not defending theist or atheist positions here.

@ "an insubstantially argued yet sensational opinion"
An insubstantially argument has to be irrelevant by definition!

[chriscase]

Or has anyone own thoughts, that don't rely on what was read or hear? Probably not.

Hypocrisy. Put forward a remotely original idea and then maybe, just maybe, you get to make generalizations about what "most" people think.

[TransFax]

Hypocrisy. Put forward a remotely original idea and then maybe, just maybe, you get to make generalizations about what "most" people think.

Ok!

Where does all this come from? I will never say it was a god (my mind is open, not dogmatic), but how could materia come from nothing? Do molecules have a consciousness? Do bacteria have a consciousness? Do inscects have consciousness? Do 1-year old childs have consciousnes? Do we have a free will? How can a free will exist when the brain is a cluster of neurons or cells?

So what shall we/I think?

EDIT: Hoping for an interestríng answer chriscase.

[chriscase]

Ok!

Where does all this come from? I will never say it was a god (my mind is open, not dogmatic), but how could materia come from nothing? Do molecules have a consciousness? Do bacteria have a consciousness? Do inscects have consciousness? Do 1-year old childs have consciousnes? Do we have a free will? How can a free will exist when the brain is a cluster of neurons or cells?

So what shall we/I think?

Slow down, there, big guy. One sophomoric imponderable at a time, if you please.

Where does all this come from?

Please define "all this".

[Ciabhán]

You're complaining that no one has any original thoughts on the matter then asking such stereotypical questions?

If only the people who craved answers thought up questions worth a new and interesting answer...

[TransFax]

You're complaining that no one has any original thoughts on the matter then asking such stereotypical questions?

But asking that question (about this and everything) - isn't that in itself a good go?

Anyway - no one has any original thoughts on such matters! All just repeat what they read in bible-school or what their books told them!!
You haven't any originals thoughts yourself - or have you! You just go at me, as would maybe Fox-news do. Teaser!!!! Sry!

[TransFax]

Slow down, there, big guy. One sophomoric imponderable at a time, if you please.

Where does all this come from?

Please define "all this".

Ok!

"all this":
> All that what is present! -- that not has to be physical, mental (=dreams) or godly (=pantheism). "All this: meaning simply all this without definition >> the pure undefinded perception of a moment, without judgement.

Oh ! We'll not meet, i guess...

[Phier]

Or has anyone own thoughts, that don't rely on what was read or hear? Probably not.

I figured out atheism when I was 8 years old without any outside information on the subject.

Does that make me special?

Its always better when you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

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I figured out atheism when I was 8 years old without any outside information on the subject.

Does that make me special?

Its always better when you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

Your not alone there! Also others figured that out early enough. Many of is even disregarded Santa Clause much earlier than that.
Anyhow: "Most theist and atheits world-views are only based on believe / what they heard from others!" Or do you trust yourself to have an idea, that may contradict modern explanations by physicists?

[Phier]

Your not alone there! Also others figured that out early enough. Many of is even disregarded Santa Clause much earlier than that.
Anyhow: "Most theist and atheits world-views are only based on believe / what they heard from others!" Or do you trust yourself to have an idea, that may contradict modern explanations by physicists?

I've never worried about the opinion of others when the weight of evidence is on my side.

[TransFax]

I've never worried about the opinion of others when the weight of evidence is on my side.

Cool!!! Come on, give our personal "positive" on this regard ... if you have one?!

[RomanSoldier9001]

Well of course you have to heard others when you read a book you are reading another people opnion and you read the newspaper when you watch a documentary etc. Of course yours world view is influended by other people and I should think that organized religion has a big part of this. Listening to what priest says listen to what the Pope or whatver religious leader says etc.
The point is atheists and theists probaly think about their concept and come to a conclusion by degrees of discusion and research while most religious folk that believes and is part of organized religion acts in determinated way and posses ideas about several topics because of what they are told tough these doesnt apply to all.
Wheres your source btw for your topic?

[TransFax]

Well of course you have to heard others when you read a book you are reading another people opnion and you read the newspaper when you watch a documentary etc. Of course yours world view is influended by other people and I should think that organized religion has a big part of this. Listening to what priest says listen to what the Pope or whatver religious leader says etc.
The point is atheists and theists probaly think about their concept and come to a conclusion by degrees of discusion and research while most religious folk that believes and is part of organized religion acts in determinated way and posses ideas about several topics because of what they are told tough these doesnt apply to all.
Wheres your source btw for your topic?

Ok! But what is your positive? Have you a world-view that is consistent and untouchable by others? You, I and others always repeat what You/I/others have heard from physicist or those that know better. But have you got an own, personal positive (which by definition will be torn apart, as it is a positive and not a negative)?

[(s)AINT]

Well obviously people's world views and thoughts are based off what people have heard and been told.

Now if you want to make this discussion a little more interesting:

Have most theists/atheists been indoctrinated/brainwashed in beliefs, world views, dogmas, etc by their parents?

[TransFax]

Well obviously people's world views and thoughts are based off what people have heard and been told.

Of course, but you think for your self!? We all do so, or at least hope we do so.

Now if you want to make this discussion a little more interesting:

Have most theists/atheists been indoctrinated/brainwashed in beliefs, world views, dogmas, etc by their parents?

Of coures!

"Most theist and atheits world-views are only based on believe / what they heard from others!" I may add: What is your world-view? If it is independent from common thoughts, then I'll be quite stunned.

[TransFax]

No one that has posted here has a truely own idea! All just state common up-to-date knowledge or mock.

"Most theist and atheits world-views are only based on believe / what they heard from others!" No one dares to give a own positive.

My positive: Don't believe! What is left when all believe is gone, can't be wrong.