Around the world in 80 turns

[High Chunker Greens]

Haven't posted here in a while

A friend and I were talking about whether I could take the whole map (except America) in 80 turns, as Milan on H/H. I think if I really blitz it I could just about make it, but I want to know whether you guys actually think this is possible. Looking forward to your professional opinions

[Scelesticfish]

If you cheat really really hard...

[Rakoua]

The record is Turks at 21 turns. It's very possible. I guess I could do Milan at 50 turns with a really fast blitz myself.

[High Chunker Greens]

Turkish world domination in 21 turns :O

[Silverheart]

Turkish world domination in 21 turns :O

Yeah, I saw a screenshot of that map - I could NOT believe my eyes! You´d think that "it takes more than 21 turns just to move from one end to another, how the heck did they have time for sieges and junk?!?! And where did they get the soldiers from?" Mindblowingly impressive, that´s all I have to say...

So if you cheat ALOT, then you can certainly win impressively fast, especially if you start at a good central position like Milan.

[midget_roxx]

There was some trick you could do where you join the jihad, move, then cancel jihad so you don't get deserters and can take other muslim nations. If you sacked (or even exterminated) cities then you will be able to get away with lack of a garrison

[GhirYear]

But even using those tricks I still don't believe world domination is achievable in 21 turns. Not without some massive cheating.

Has anyone a link to those screenshots?

Theoretically, it might be possible if you storm cities at once, massacre the population, rely on mercenaries and employ jihads as much as possible.
But still it is hard to believe. With or without cheats it is impressive.

[Jambat]

But even using those tricks I still don't believe world domination is achievable in 21 turns. Not without some massive cheating.

As you said it would take massive cheating, but it would be very doable. All you need is one unit per castle or town you want to take, use the auto_win and cut a bloody path through anything that stands in your way. Using the Shell you can also teleport units around on the map so travel time would be next to nonexistent. However, that sounds boring as shite.

I don't know if you could legitimately take the world in 80 turns. Depending on difficulty and starting faction I could see some getting a large (a third to half) chunk put away in that time, but some factions (Portugal?) I'd be absolutely amazed.

[Sulfurion Blackfyre]

As you said it would take massive cheating, but it would be very doable. All you need is one unit per castle or town you want to take, use the auto_win and cut a bloody path through anything that stands in your way. Using the Shell you can also teleport units around on the map so travel time would be next to nonexistent. However, that sounds boring as shite.

I don't know if you could legitimately take the world in 80 turns. Depending on difficulty and starting faction I could see some getting a large (a third to half) chunk put away in that time, but some factions (Portugal?) I'd be absolutely amazed.

What's wrong about Portugal? Heck, you want me to conquer the world ('xcept 'mericas) quickly with them in a few turns? Allrighty, I can blitz with them, not hard at all.

[Sulfurion Blackfyre]

As you said it would take massive cheating, but it would be very doable. All you need is one unit per castle or town you want to take, use the auto_win and cut a bloody path through anything that stands in your way. Using the Shell you can also teleport units around on the map so travel time would be next to nonexistent. However, that sounds boring as shite.

I don't know if you could legitimately take the world in 80 turns. Depending on difficulty and starting faction I could see some getting a large (a third to half) chunk put away in that time, but some factions (Portugal?) I'd be absolutely amazed.

Ok so I just took over the Iberian Peninsula by turn 6 as Portugal on VH/VH, still building my armies, after the intitial slow start I'm now going to steamroll North Africa and France, adding troops, recruiting mercs and exterminating cities as it goes.. yeah.. I think I can do it by turn 50 easily.

No cheating at all ('xcept toggle_fow) and I'm already excommunicated, so no crusades

[Jambat]

Ok so I just took over the Iberian Peninsula by turn 6 as Portugal on VH/VH, still building my armies, after the intitial slow start I'm now going to steamroll North Africa and France, adding troops, recruiting mercs and exterminating cities as it goes.. yeah.. I think I can do it by turn 50 easily.

No cheating at all ('xcept toggle_fow) and I'm already excommunicated, so no crusades

My fault, I forgot we were talking about Vanilla. So used to SS maps, taking over 20 provinces with just one with Portugal is what I naturally think of now for Iberia.

Keep doing what you're doing if you want though, maybe you can beat the Turk guys record.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize how rude that sounded. It was meant more as a 'Haha, my bad. Vanilla sucks ;P'

[painter]

I don't believe that it would require cheating for the Turks to dominate the world. They can jihad to a larger range of targets, hire mercenaries and cities and castles won't immediately rebel if you leave them without a garrison, particularly so if they were exterminated and plenty of time to recruit a token garrison unit a few turns later. My biggest wonder is whether siege engines was used or a turn was spent waiting to build siege engines.

As for conquering the known world in 80 turns as Milan, I'm guessing that you have a small chance at actually making it.

[EmperorDan]

I don't believe that it would require cheating for the Turks to dominate the world. They can jihad to a larger range of targets, hire mercenaries and cities and castles won't immediately rebel if you leave them without a garrison, particularly so if they were exterminated and plenty of time to recruit a token garrison unit a few turns later. My biggest wonder is whether siege engines was used or a turn was spent waiting to build siege engines.

As for conquering the known world in 80 turns as Milan, I'm guessing that you have a small chance at actually making it.

my bet is that are more than 75 settlements on the map and that he had no more than 20 offensive armies. so waiting turns on the outer walls doesn't seem posible.

more likely, his armies were made of horse archers, who are largely underrated and the besieged force would sally out and be massacred

[Nosjack]

My guess would be that they used spies to open what gates they could.

[Lord Minotaur]

yep i saw those screenies myself theyre posted in total war org or something

[Théoric HämmerHörde]

Cheating makes the game boring as . maybe those screenshots were forged, it's be extremly easy to to that in photoshop.

[Nosjack]

Personally, if they played on M/M or maybe even on H/H I think it would be very doable, especially with the turks. Each army of 5-10 HA units, enemy sallies forth, slaughter, move on to the next city.

[GenAnnoyance]

I'd say it's definitely possible without cheating.

Link to the 21 turn WC with the Turks

If that guy did it in 21, it must be possible in 80 turns for Milan, I mean you can still crusade.

[Jianadaren]

Yeah, you got it. Even without the crusade glitch it is feasible. I've never tried a blitz with Milan, but once you reach a critical mass (strong enough that no other faction can take you down) a you can steamroll the rest of the map no problem. Just use your best blitzing techniques and read in that other forum about Ask The Pizza Guy and the Turkey-in-21-turns's exploits.

I've done blitzing with France and have got long victory conditions by turn 24 and map domination by turn 50 without crusading or cheating (except save/reload and occasional FOW for pathfinding [still use spies for reconnaissance]).

[chaney]

Did the player increase their movement points , its an option , anyone know how to do this actually ?