Recognition of Somaliland

[Populus Romanus]

Should Somaliland be recognized?
I think it should be. It functions as a state, is far more stable than Somalia, and nobody recognizes it. There is no concievable reason not to aknowledge them as a country, so why not do it?

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Should Somaliland be recognized?
I think it should be. It functions as a state, is far more stable than Somalia, and nobody recognizes it. There is no concievable reason not to aknowledge them as a country, so why not do it?

Then every two-bit country in the world will start to shout "recognize me! recognize me!" and instead of around a 191 or so countries we will end up 300+ countries who would all need UN help to stay stable and work.

[Tiberios]

Then every two-bit country in the world will start to shout "recognize me! recognize me!" and instead of around a 191 or so countries we will end up 300+ countries who would all need UN help to stay stable and work.

Except that Somaliland is quite stable compared to Somalia. Besides Ethiopia probably won't allow it to destabilize as they use Somaliland ports to export goods and have done so since the loss of Eritrea.


@OP:

Yes I believe that Somaliland should be recognized as independent. It has clearly shown it self capable of sustaining itself.

[Central Asian Qaghan]

Except that Somaliland is quite stable compared to Somalia. Besides Ethiopia probably won't allow it to destabilize as they use Somaliland ports to export goods and have done so since the loss of Eritrea.

Ethipoia has its own issue, will they fight for Somalialand when Somalia or Yemen or anyone invades? How strong is the economy without Ethipoia?

[Tiberios]

Ethipoia has its own issue, will they fight for Somalialand when Somalia or Yemen or anyone invades? How strong is the economy without Ethipoia?

First of Somalia is in no position to invade anything as their government isn't even in control of all it's territory and they have been in near constant civil war since the 1990's. Neither is Yemen considering their own problems with Islamic militants. They'd also face the combined Ethiopian-Somaliland forces which I'd say would be able to block an invasion attempt. Anyway the US would almost certainly not allow it.

Somaliland's economy isn't strong, but it has been developing and it has been enough for the country to sustain itself.

[Manuel I Komnenos]

Then every two-bit country in the world will start to shout "recognize me! recognize me!" and instead of around a 191 or so countries we will end up 300+ countries who would all need UN help to stay stable and work.

Belgium is ready to descent into 2 new countries.

[Fionn son of Cumhaill]

Belgium is ready to descent into 2 new countries.

And apparently the Italians in the North of Italy want to divorce themselves from their estranged lazy cousins in the Mezzogiorno... It's nothing new really and everyone that believes they are of a different culture, religion or even philosophy want to secede from the dregs of society. Nothing new in that. Doesnt make it right but it happens and the Wallachians and Flemish definitely have a stronger case than most who do it for political gain.

[Axeman]

Then every two-bit country in the world will start to shout "recognize me! recognize me!" and instead of around a 191 or so countries we will end up 300+ countries who would all need UN help to stay stable and work.

Somaliland is bigger then many countries in Europe.
Since when did size and geographical inconviences overrule popular sentiment and a desire to be independent and not part of a completely lawless failed state.

By your logic we need to remove the following countries and merge them with others.

Portugal
Austria
Andorra
Austria
Switzerland
Leichtenstein
Slovakia
Hungary
Bosnia
Croatia
Kosovo
Montenegro
Serbia
Albania
Macedonia
Belgium
Netherlands
Estonia
Latvia
Lithuania
Hondouras
Nicaragua
El Salvador
Belize
Costa Rica
Panama
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Every carribean and small pacific island nation
Malawi
Burundi
Rwanda
Swaziland
Leshoto

All of those are nations off the top of my head that I can think of that are of similar size to Somaliland or smaller.

So please come up with a more valid reason behind a new country seceeding from anarchy besides "MAP LOOKZ UGLY". This is not AH.com and rule of the cool is not on top.

[Treize]

I agree. Let's recognise Somaliland and help it to secure it's border.

[hellheaven1987]

I agree. Let's recognise Somaliland and help it to secure it's border.

The first part is fine, but not the second part.

[Populus Romanus]

Well, how strong their economy is without Ethiopia doesn't really matter, after all, it is not like Ethiopia is going to stop using their ports anytime soon. But recognition as a soveign nation would only make them even more economically viable. More countries would trade with them, and they could trade with other countries. And why would Yemen invade Somaliland? They're on the opposite side of the Red Sea, and have they're own issues with terrorists. Same for Somalia. How can they invade when the counry literally does not even exist? And who in the name of God wants to get militarily involved in that area of the world? The United States and Ethiopia found out the hard way that it does not end well. And Somaliland has its own military to defend itself with.

[Imperial]

Somaliland? Sounds like a theme park. Must be a fun place to visit.

[Populus Romanus]

Somaliland? Sounds like a theme park. Must be a fun place to visit.

Definently not a fun place to be at all.

[Atatürk]

Definently not a fun place to be at all.

I'd disagree. The sun, the sea, is all I need in order to enjoy myself.

[Jom]

This is more a Political Academy kind of thread than a Mudpit one.

Moved.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Is there Oil?

Just asking cause South Sudan does and they got recognized.

[Del Valle]

Is there Oil?

Just asking cause South Sudan does and they got recognized.

Their having oil will be the reason why the North will fight tooth and nail to keep them in the country. Me foresees a civil war in Sudan.

On topic, I wholeheartedly believe that Somaliland would be a move in a better direction.

[Armenum]

Well then you should recognize Abkhazia, Nagorno-Karabakh, Transindestria (spelling off probably).

[Viking Prince]

They are autonomous and not really stable. The eastern bit wants its own independance. This is why I oppose slicing and dicing when it come to nations. They have internal problems, but that is not a good reason to break away.

I am really mystified that a claim of stability (relative to complete chaos I suppose) would be brought forth to argue for independance. The last thing the EU needs is another 'independance' movement needing armed protection with UN blue helmets or even worse EU supported troops.

[Armenum]

Why is recognizing Somaliland fine? As I said if such a territory is going to be recognized as independent then so should all the other territories that have self-governments and a legitimate reason to be independent.