Feedback - Peninsula campaign NTW3 units

**Vinc** · January 23, 2011, 08:37 AM

Hi, great mod. There is only two things that bothers me - 1.some austrian unifroms. It looks unrealistic.

2. infantry formation like square formation but units are inside too, like pikemans... when cavalary goes through that it looks unrealistic and it is too good target for enemy fire.

Please consider changes... thanks for your work

**Liberalis Bellatricus** · January 23, 2011, 09:13 AM

Concerning uniforms, you'll get an answer from Fullin pretty soon, he's our fashion designer.

Could you explain your second point more precisely ? I'm not sure to understand your demand.

Thanks for the comments.

**Vinc** · January 23, 2011, 10:43 AM

i tried to say (with my bad english) that i don´t like a new formation you added. I made picture:

offtopic question: how goes work on NTW3's campaign? Will we be able to play it before Shogun 2 or it takes longer time to make that happend?

thanks

**Liberalis Bellatricus** · January 23, 2011, 11:00 AM

I don't think it will be out before mars.

**[N]Tac** · January 23, 2011, 11:54 AM

Some austrians didnt form square,theyformed more of a mass with bayonets out so therefore it would be unrealistic i think to have them forming square.
Thats my understanding anyway.
Also the green cuffs and collars are to represent the grade of troop type i think like conscript,veteran and crack i could be wrong though.

**Vinc** · January 23, 2011, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by [N]Tac

Also the green cuffs and collars are to represent the grade of troop type i think like conscript,veteran and crack i could be wrong though.

its a good idea but i would choose different colours...somethink less bride

**Franky-Boy** · January 23, 2011, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by [N]Tac

Some austrians didnt form square,theyformed more of a mass with bayonets out so therefore it would be unrealistic i think to have them forming square.
Thats my understanding anyway.

I didn't know that the Austrian Army did not form squares. Here is some info about it (in German):
http://www.univie.ac.at/igl.geschich...rel/karree.htm

For gameplay purposes, it would nevertheless be better if you could add the option for them anyway.

**Von_Clausewitz** · January 23, 2011, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Vinc

Hi, great mod. There is only two things that bothers me - 1.some austrian unifroms. It looks unrealistic.

2. infantry formation like square formation but units are inside too, like pikemans... when cavalary goes through that it looks unrealistic and it is too good target for enemy fire.

Please consider changes... thanks for your work

Looks pretty realistic to me. Look at the picture of the Austrian fusilier, green collar...

Lord VC

**Von_Clausewitz** · January 23, 2011, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Vinc

its a good idea but i would choose different colours...somethink less bride

No it was not for the different grade, they all have the same uniforms. Austrian line had this collar color... It was made for historical accuracy, sorry if you do not like it, complain to their uniform designer. If he is still alive, he must be very hard of hearing looooooool

Lord VC

**Von_Clausewitz** · January 23, 2011, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Franky-Boy

I didn't know that the Austrian Army did not form squares. Here is some info about it (in German):
http://www.univie.ac.at/igl.geschich...rel/karree.htm

For gameplay purposes, it would nevertheless be better if you could add the option for them anyway.

Yes, stick with the Lordz and you will learn correct history.

Austrian formed a "carre en masse" (mass square), especially their less expereinced battalions did it.

Unfortunately we cannot mod the spacing in that formation to prevent cav from going through it, blame that on CA. Other that that, it is a good defense against cavalry. And yes also a good target for artillery.

Lord VC

**kirk101** · January 27, 2011, 06:45 PM

im sorry but didnt know where to put my comment for te problems im having with the mod, id like to say i love the maps and the skins of the units but unfortunatly on three occasions i started a battle the french soldiers were all brown coloured no skins this is a common problem i have had with other mods also i dont know if creative assembly have done anything to rectify this but it is a pain. also my game as crashed on two attempts to play a battle. so it does look like a few bugs in the mod that need to be ironed out.

**Von_Clausewitz** · January 27, 2011, 07:44 PM

The french problem is a badly compressed atlas which is now fixed, we will release a patch soon with the fix. As far as crashes, you will have to be more specific for us to know how to help it.

VC

**Emilio Aguinaldo** · February 06, 2011, 05:32 PM

By the way? I couldn't find any British Grenadiers?

**Bricommander** · February 06, 2011, 10:24 PM

The artillery crossing the bridge will die by hitting it!

**DunkFunk** · February 07, 2011, 12:15 AM

Originally Posted by Emilio Aguinaldo

By the way? I couldn't find any British Grenadiers?

These uniforms never actually saw battle in the Napoleonic wars, the hats and their name especially are for their part in breaking the imperial guard of France at the end of the battle of waterloo.

**Edimonde** · February 26, 2011, 03:02 AM

oh? Interesting, i didnt know that british didnt use grenadiers in the peninsular campaign. But then again, most of my facts about the british during the napoleonic wars comes from the Hornblower and Sharpe tv series.

**Shneckie** · February 26, 2011, 07:25 AM

Originally Posted by Edimonde

oh? Interesting, i didnt know that british didnt use grenadiers in the peninsular campaign. But then again, most of my facts about the british during the napoleonic wars comes from the Hornblower and Sharpe tv series.

The British still fielded Grenadier companies within each battalion; for example, 1st Battalion of the 1st Foot would consist of 7-8 Center companies + 1 Light company + 1 Grenadier company.

There has been some confusion in this thread between the 1st Foot Guards, who later became known as the Grenadier Guards after Waterloo, with the companies of Grenadiers within each battalion.