Rebellion!

[Ahlerich]

having a great campaign so far but for the longest time my emperor inspires rebellion.
i dont want to kill of my emperor to solve this so is it possible to get the emperor to not inspire rebellion anymore?
i used my emperor a lot in battles, he made a successful crusade to jerusalem has full command stars but i cant get his authority up. is it impossible to get authority up once a emperor inspires rebellion?

how does a faction leader gather authority?

is there a way to get rebelling generals loyal again?

which lines in which file do i need to comment out to disable rebellion?

how does the whole rebellion feature work? do dungeons play a role to rebelling generals like in dlv?

[SicilianVespers]

It's been a long time since I looked a t the traits, but if I recall correctly, you can get some loyalty back if they character is in the capital with the ruler. Also give them titles, and put them in a fortress.

I wonder if I should change this from fortress, to the higher Feudalization buildings.

For a favorite King, I usually kill the disloyal Nobles or park them some where strategic. Then take care of the guys that are still loyal.

I think I definitely need to tie in the Feudalization buildings and governor titles. You should be able to buy loyalty with land and title.

[Ixor_Drakar]

That would definitely be a great help in the campaign as loyalty is usually a problem for me as well.

[SicilianVespers]

It will add to the roleplaying element as well....

[Ixor_Drakar]

True, making a man governor implies that you show trust in that man. So it should make him more loyal being seen as an essential part of the kingdom or empire. Building barons estates and the like in said province would be like you just gave him those estates making him feel more important and respected.
EDIT: Have you also considered adding more resource buildings like DLV has done? Fisheries, slave markets and the like?

[Ahlerich]

for those who dont like the rebllion feature the way it is now it can be disabled by deleting the following lines in export_descr_character_traits.txt :
Should be save-game compatible. The rebelling dudes will stay that way though if changes are made during a running campaign
this is not ment as a offense to the modders, merely presenting a alternative if anybody dislikes the feature as implementen right now.


;********* LOYALTY SYSTEM TRIGGERS *********

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalstarta
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 1
and IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient = 0 ;as this is the initial step- no returning back...
and Trait Obedient = 0
and Attribute Loyalty >= 6
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 25 ;tended this way

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Rebelstarta
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 1
and IsGeneral
and Attribute Loyalty <= 5
and Trait Disobedient = 0
and Trait Obedient = 0
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Disobedient 1 Chance 25 ;tended this way

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Rebelstart
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 1
and IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient = 0
and Trait Obedient = 0
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Disobedient 1 Chance 33 ;about a third of the rest of the nobility goes down this path

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Rebelend
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 2
and IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient = 1
and not Trait Obedient >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Disobedient 1 Chance 33 ;eventually you WILL gain it it's just a matter of time...

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalstart
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 1
and IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient = 0 ;as this is the initial step- no returning back...
and Trait Obedient = 0
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 66 ;about two-thirds of the rest of the nobility goes down this path

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Loyalend
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles >= 2
and IsGeneral
and Trait Obedient = 1
and not Trait Disobedient >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 33 ;eventually you WILL gain it it's just a matter of time...

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not1
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

Condition Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and SettlementsTaken >= 5
and FactionIsLocal


Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not2
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

Condition Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and SettlementsTaken >= 10
and FactionIsLocal


Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 2

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not3
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

Condition Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and SettlementsTaken >= 20
and FactionIsLocal ;If the ai gets this big it deserves to STAY this big.


Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 3

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Usurper1 ;usurper or asserting newly blue hued blood.
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

Condition Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and SettlementsTaken >= 5
and Trait SonofKingPrince <= 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 3

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Usurper1ai ;usurper or asserting newly blue hued blood.
WhenToTest BecomesFactionLeader

Condition Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and SettlementsTaken >= 8
and Trait SonofKingPrince <= 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not_progress
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 2

;------------------------------------------

Trigger civil_war_or_not_progress_expedite ;since the king isn't around... let's check again...
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and DistanceCapital >= 50
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 1
and FactionIsLocal ;not for the AI

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 3

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not_progress_expedite_1 ;The King is a Bad Fink!
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Chivalry < -5
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 2

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not_progress_expedite_2 ;The King is a Fink, sorta...
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Chivalry < 0
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 1

;------------------------------------------
Trigger civil_war_or_not_progress_stop ;The King is a Truly, truly nice guy; reverse the possibility of war if it's not too late...
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Chivalry > 4
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles -1 Chance 4

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Authority_Loss_Over_Time
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles > 1
and Attribute Authority > 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Loseauthority 1 Chance 33

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Disgust_with_King's_Unreasonable_Finances ;Despite his burdensome taxes to support war and other strange notions and we are still in debt!
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Treasury < 0
and Attribute Authority <= 5
and FactionIsLocal


Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 5

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Disgust_with_King's_Religiona ;The King is not looking out for the salvation of our souls
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionExcommunicated
and IsFactionLeader
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and CharacterReligion catholic
and Attribute Piety <= 4 ;so it isn't just a political thing the Pope is perpetrating but truly, disgustingly, a deserved Excommunication!
and FactionIsLocal ;AI has a lesser chance

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 5

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Disgust_with_King's_Religionb_ai ;The King is not looking out for the salvation of our souls
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionExcommunicated
and IsFactionLeader
and Trait Offensive_To_Nobles = 0
and CharacterReligion catholic
and Attribute Piety <= 4 ;so it isn't just a political thing the Pope is perpetrating but truly, disgustingly, a deserved Excommunication!
and FactionIsLocal ;strictly AI

Affects Offensive_To_Nobles 1 Chance 2

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_king1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Obedient >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Disobedient 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_king2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Disobedient >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_king3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Loves_Father > 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Hates_Father 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_king4
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsFactionLeader
and Trait Hates_Father > 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Loves_Father 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_nobility1
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient >= 1
and FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles < 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_nobility2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and Trait Obedient >= 1
and FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles < 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Disobedient 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_nobility_that_went_gray
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and Trait Disobedient >= 1
and FactionType Slave

Affects Obedient 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger cleanup_the_nobility3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and Trait Locked >= 1
and FactionLeaderTrait Offensive_To_Nobles < 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Locked -1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger lock_up_self_in_town
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and EndedInSettlement
and Trait Disobedient >= 2 ;must be full blown traitor... not just disobedient. Disob. is the warning level.
and not Trait Locked > 0
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Locked 1 Chance 100

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Trigger Near_Loyalty_trigger ;AI OK for this one
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and DistanceCapital < 10
and not Trait Near_Loyalty >= 4
and not FactionType mongols
and not FactionType timurids
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Near_Loyalty 1 Chance 20

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Far_Loyalty_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and not IsOnCrusade
and not IsOnJihad
and not IsFactionHeir ;so send your King or his son on Crusade- not some nameless noble! Once the crusade ends if you want to hold the region... need someone loyal.
and not IsFactionLeader
and DistanceCapital > 40
and not Trait Far_Loyalty >= 10
and not FactionType mongols
and not FactionType timurids
and FactionIsLocal


Affects Far_Loyalty 1 Chance 15

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Titled_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition HasAncType dearmad_her
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and Trait Untitled >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Titled 2 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Titled_trigger2
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition HasAncType dearmad_her
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and not Trait Titled >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Titled 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Stripped_of_title
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition not HasAncType dearmad_her
and Trait Titled >= 1 ;so assume at one point he had it.
and not IsFactionLeader
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Stripped 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger Untitled_trigger
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition not HasAncType dearmad_her
and not IsFactionHeir
and not IsFactionLeader
and not Trait Untitled >= 1
and FactionIsLocal

Affects Untitled 2 Chance 100

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Trigger loyalty_check_bad_odds_penalty
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and not WonBattle
and not WasAttacker
and BattleSuccess >= average
and I_ConflictType Normal
and BattleOdds < 0.5

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 100

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Trigger loyalty_check2_good_odds_bonus
WhenToTest PostBattle

Condition IsGeneral
and WonBattle
and I_ConflictType Normal
and BattleOdds >= 1.5

Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check3
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition FactionExcommunicated
and not IsFactionLeader
and IsGeneral
and Attribute Piety > 4
and FactionIsLocal

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 20

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Trigger loyalty_check5
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition EndedInSettlement
and not GovernorBuildingExists >= stone_wall
and not GovernorBuildingExists >= castle
and Attribute Command > 4
and DistanceCapital > 50
and FactionIsLocal

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 10

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Trigger loyalty_check6
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition EndedInSettlement
and GovernorBuildingExists >= large_stone_wall
and Attribute Command < 6
and FactionIsLocal

Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 10

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check7
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition EndedInSettlement
and GovernorBuildingExists >= fortress
and Attribute Command < 6
and FactionIsLocal

Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 10

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Trigger loyalty_check8
WhenToTest GeneralPrisonersRansomedCaptor

Condition RansomType execute
and NumCapturedSoldiers > 80
and Attribute Chivalry >= 4

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 33

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check8_extermination
WhenToTest ExterminatePopulation

Condition Attribute Chivalry >= 4

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 33

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check9
WhenToTest BrotherAdopted

Condition not IsFactionHeir

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 33

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check10_mutually_chivalrous
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and not IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Chivalry >= 3
and FactionLeaderAttribute Chivalry >= 3
and FactionIsLocal

Affects ContentGeneral 1 Chance 10

;------------------------------------------
Trigger loyalty_check11_mutually_chivalrous
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd

Condition IsGeneral
and not IsFactionLeader
and Attribute Chivalry >= 3
and FactionLeaderAttribute Chivalry <= -3
and FactionIsLocal

Affects DiscontentGeneral 1 Chance 10