creation vs evolution 1v1 debate

[total relism]

hey all i am looking for a 1v1 debate with any evolutionist, elfdude and tankbuster get first choice.
But if anybody else wants to i would gladly after these two if they accept.
I was thinking any debater we could do one of two topics, first we could do a general creation vs evolution were anything can be brought up, two topic debates like do 3 or so topic's age of earth evidence for evolution noahs flood etc.
I would take the position of biblical creationist thousands of years old universe global flood.
I would prefer to debate someone who is atheist evolutionist.
I cannot believe my post from last year is still going holy crap, its got almost 3,000 replies and 35,000 veiws awesome.


I was hoping to start the first debate next tuesday if able while we wait here are some phd vs phd debates some for free some purchase creation vs evolution.


one question how do i keep what i originally say than there response than mine etc keep it all quoted so people can see the back and forth?

The Genesis Debate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDEPSZSdx2k 11 part debate free online
"The Genesis Debate: Skeptic vs Creationist" is a debate between Dr. Paul Willis and Dr. Carl Wieland over the topic of Creation (more specifically, "Does scientific evidence support a literal Genesis?"). Dr. Paul Willis was the former winner of Australia's "Skeptic of the Year" award, and Dr. Carl Wieland is Managing Director of Creation Ministries International (Australia). www.Creation.com
free online




Oregon state university debate
kevin Anderson obtained his Ph.D. from Kansas State University in Microbiology. He held an NIH postdoctoral fellowship at the University of Illinois and was Professor of Microbiology at Mississippi State University, where he taught graduate level courses in molecular genetics. He later served as a research microbiologist for the U. S. Department of Agriculture before accepting his current position as Director of the Van Andel Creation Research Center in Chino Valley, Arizona. He is currently the Editor-in-Chief of the Creation Research Society Quarterly.


Vs


Andy Karplus is Professor and Chair of the Department of Biochemistry and Biophysics at OSU, where he has taught since 1998. He holds a Ph.D. in Biochemistry from the University of Washington and was twice an Alexander von Humboldt Fellow at the University of Freiburg in Germany. He has received several awards for his research and has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed articles on protein structure-function relationships.


http://oregonstate.edu/groups/socrat...ristian-belief
free online






found some free online also
kent hovind debates
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eL-cORRZdng very good debate well done on both sides editor of sceptic magazine vs kent hovind


http://www.drdino.com/category/type/video/debates
Kent hovind Berkeley finally here's the truth


http://www.drdino.com/media-categories.php?c=debates free online


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGDVf...watch_response free



onlinehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95968386591557 free online dr kent hovind at wayne state collage debate


http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...72945069976156


3 way debate old earth creation young earth creation and atheist evolutionist
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...68472809350444


another free online kent hovind debate



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cffk0zQ33k
free online kent hovind vs










http://shopping.drdino.com/category-...d/36/nm/Debate 20 creation vs evolution debates dr kent hovind vs dr Matthew rainbow






http://creation.com/images/pdfs/skep...eationists.pdf read for free online creation ministries vs atist




http://www.americanvision.com/debate...ftheearth.aspx


https://store.creation.com/us/produc...p?sku=30-9-538

https://store.creation.com/us/produc...p?sku=30-9-554 most boring debate ever but here you go
https://store.creation.com/us/produc...abbff55413622d




http://creationresearch.org/Merchant...roduct_Count=0






Creation scientists tend to win the Creation-Evolution debates and many have been held since the 1970's particularly in the United States. Robert Sloan, Director of Paleontology at the University of Minnesota, reluctantly admitted to a Wall Street Journal reporter that the "creationists tend to win" the public debates which focused on the creation vs. evolution controversy.[246][247] In August of 1979, Dr. Henry Morris reported in an Institute for Creation Research letter the following: “By now, practically every leading evolutionary scientist in this country has declined one or more invitations to a scientific debate on creation/evolution.”[247] Morris also said regarding the creation scientist Duane Gish (who had over 300 formal debates): “At least in our judgment and that of most in the audiences, he always wins.”[247] Generally speaking, leading evolutionists generally no longer debate creation scientists because creation scientists tend to win the creation vs. evolution debates.[248] Also, the atheist and evolutionist Richard Dawkins has shown inconsistent and deceptive behavior concerning his refusal creation scientists. In an article entitled Are Kansas Evolutionists Afraid of a Fair Debate? the Discovery Institute states the following:
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Defenders of Darwin's theory of evolution typically proclaim that evidence for their theory is simply overwhelming. If they really believe that, you would think they would jump at a chance to publicly explain some of that overwhelming evidence to the public. Apparently not.[249]
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In 1994, the arch-evolutionist Dr. Eugenie Scott made this confession concerning creation vs. evolution debates:
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During the last six or eight months, I have received more calls about debates between creationists and evolutionists than I have encountered for a couple of years, it seems. I do not know what has inspired this latest outbreak, but I am not sure it is doing much to improve science education.
Why do I say this? Sure, there are examples of "good" debates where a well-prepared evolution supporter got the best of a creationist, but I can tell you after many years in this business that they are few and far between. Most of the time a well-meaning evolutionist accepts a debate challenge (usually "to defend good science" or for some other worthy goal), reads a bunch of creationist literature, makes up a lecture explaining Darwinian gradualism, and can't figure out why at the end of the debate so many individuals are clustered around his opponent, congratulating him on having done such a good job of routing evolution -- and why his friends are too busy to go out for a beer after the debate.[250]











why debates are important
http://www.icr.org/article/how-do-cr...affect-people/

[MathiasOfAthens]

Wow.... great debating style relism... post tons of that would take a year to answer.

And why the throw in why debates are important. And I see your grammar has remained the same.

Did you just ing repost the 1st post of your other thread.

[Gaidin]

There's another forum for this relism. Just so you know.

[total relism]

Wow.... great debating style relism... post tons of that would take a year to answer.

And why the throw in why debates are important. And I see your grammar has remained the same.

Did you just ing repost the 1st post of your other thread.

not sure if you noticed this is not a debate this is asking for someone to debate me, Are you willing.

There's another forum for this relism. Just so you know.

thanks this is not to start a debate here, i want to in the 1v1 fight club

[Tuor]

Somebody jump on this opportunity while we have it. Aren't debates actually concluded in the fight club?
Edit: Here is where this proposal should go. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=220827 I'm not sure if you can propose without already having another challenger though. But this thread shouldn't be open if you're just wanting a 1v1.

[Gaidin]

Somebody jump on this opportunity while we have it. Aren't debates actually concluded in the fight club?

There is no debate. He just quotes it by rote.

[Tuor]

There is no debate. He just quotes it by rote.

Yes, a brilliant opportunity!

[total relism]

Somebody jump on this opportunity while we have it. Aren't debates actually concluded in the fight club?
Edit: Here is where this proposal should go. http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=220827 I'm not sure if you can propose without already having another challenger though. But this thread shouldn't be open if you're just wanting a 1v1.

thank you very much i just posted in there, i thought i could do it this way and more people would have the chance.

[Gordon Freynman]

I think I should clarify some things for any naive would be candidates.

1) You wont be debating against total relism, you'll be debating against his sources.

2) It wont be a 1v1 per-say, but a 1vAll of AiG, Creation.com, and just about every creationist propoganda site out there.

3) The OP and pretty much all of his replies in that other mockery of reason thread are pretty good examples of what you'll have to deal with.

Good luck.

[CamilleBonparte]

2) It wont be a 1v1 per-say, but a 1vAll of AiG, Creation.com, and just about every creationist propoganda site out there.

Are you really complaining that someone would use sources in a debate?

You're more than free to use sources as well, in fact I imagine it's encouraged.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Are you really complaining that someone would use sources in a debate?

You're more than free to use sources as well, in fact I imagine it's encouraged.

From The Genesis Debate to the bottom of his post... all of that is copy paste.

[Theseus1234]

Are you really complaining that someone would use sources in a debate?

You're more than free to use sources as well, in fact I imagine it's encouraged.

It's not the sources he's complaining about. He's just forewarning everyone that you'll be arguing against who believes that website with intense religious fervor, immune to all voices of reason or reasonableness.

[Gordon Freynman]

Are you really complaining that someone would use sources in a debate?

You're more than free to use sources as well, in fact I imagine it's encouraged.

Have you even read his posts? They're 99% links and copy pasta material from said links. I'm not complaining about having sources, I'm complaining about constructing a post that is ENTIRELY sources.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Well frankly I didnt read your whole post because it appeared like a debate but as I can see now it is an advertisement and 2 gaiden mentioned there is a forum for 1 on 1 debates but no I wont debate you 1 on 1... your debating style is just post a lot of stuff and hope it takes me so long to answer everything that I wont even try. Its kent hovinds style.

[black-dragon]

You're all forgetting one thing: we still need somebody to argue for his side. He's already shown himself incapable of doing so.

[MathiasOfAthens]

You obviously have never met relism before... that is typical of all of his debates... just read the beginning of his other thread.

Interesting tidbit on Hovind, or Doctor Hovind. He received a Bachelor of Religious Education from non-accredited Midwestern Baptist College and a master's degree and doctorate in Christian Education through correspondence from the non-accredited Patriot University in Colorado Springs, which interesting enough awards 4 year degrees in a matter of months for as low as 25 Dollars.


Relism just go and join Papay in your other thread.

[black-dragon]

He received a Bachelor of Religious Education from non-accredited Midwestern Baptist College and a master's degree and doctorate in Christian Education through correspondence from the non-accredited Patriot University in Colorado Springs, which interesting enough awards 4 year degrees in a matter of months for as low as 25 Dollars.

He even started his dissertation with "Hello my name is Kent Hovind". LOL

[CamilleBonparte]

You obviously have never met relism before... that is typical of all of his debates... just read the beginning of his other thread.

Doesn't make you any less wrong that this is a debate thread and that the OP is debating rather than just posting debates for you to watch/read.

[MathiasOfAthens]

He even started his dissertation with "Hello my name is Kent Hovind". LOL

His name is listen in the phone book as Dr. Kent Hovind...

Doesn't make you any less wrong that this is a debate thread and that the OP is debating rather than just posting debates for you to watch/read.

Fine I was wrong... are you happy.

[CamilleBonparte]

Fine I was wrong... are you happy.

Quite. I also encourage you to ensure you are reading and understanding things correctly before criticizing peoples/ideas based on your own assumptions, which I have noticed you do quite often.