2TPY vs 1TPY

[Asterix]

All right, wanted to find out how many of us use Meneth's 2 turns per year campaigns. I figure 2TPY is fairly popular considering that it fixes the devestation script, makes for a more even-paced game, it's more accurate, etc. of course, the advantage of 1TPY is a slightly faster paced campaign, but i never liked the rapid aging and how the years flew by without even being aware they were going.
As you can tell, i am a fan of the 2tpy and use it all the time.
Vote, and then tell why you are a 2TPY or a 1TPY kind of person.

[SirRobin]

i never liked the rapid aging and how the years flew by without even being aware they were going.

Me neither.. I'm 30 and I feel like I was 20 just a moment ago.

On topic, I don't use the mod, as I always supposed that since there are two seasons, summer and winter, each turn should be a half year by default

On a related note, I feel winter turns should be removed - nobody went to war in winter! Even today it just needs a bit of snow to close down entire modern European countries, imagine how it was like back then when there wasn't even a dirt track most of the time.

[Caesar Clivus]

On a related note, I feel winter turns should be removed - nobody went to war in winter!

Russians and Scandinavians did. Even the Teutonic Order made winter raids on Lithuania. Frozen rivers made it much easier to get around.

[danielrech]

Russians and Scandinavians did. Even the Teutonic Order made winter raids on Lithuania. Frozen rivers made it much easier to get around.

Mongols too, they used frozen rivers as highways of their times.

[Abyrvalg]

On a related note, I feel winter turns should be removed - nobody went to war in winter! Even today it just needs a bit of snow to close down entire modern European countries, imagine how it was like back then when there wasn't even a dirt track most of the time.

King Stephen and Lord Fauconberg disargee with you

On topic, 2TPY.
1TPY is too fast for such slowpoke like me. I can fight only few battles before I need to change army composition again and again because of new units.
And what the point in raising good governors, generals and agents if they die after 10-30 turns of their career? Nah.
Never started 2TPY Early Era though.

[Ninefingers]

2TPY for me. As many have mentioned, 1TPY sees characters dying off too rapidly for my liking - just as I'm starting to get one developed, they become senile and arthritic. Or die.

Also, the aging script doesn't seem to reach all of the areas of the game, like child procreation and reasonable death ages. With kings living to 75+ years of age and children being born only every X number of turns, I frequently find myself running out of family members before long. 2TPY seems more balanced in this aspect.

Some events do take a long time to get to, but luckily I like a slow-paced campaign.

[Legio XV Apollinaris]

2TPY are fine for me! I like it to play with my generals a bit longer and raising surename like "The Conqueror" ... but i agree with newt ... events need a little too long if happen!

[newt]

... events need a little too long if happen!

It's easy to change, I'm just too lazy and also everything happens on the wrong year.

[Diversus]

Me neither.. I'm 30 and I feel like I was 20 just a moment ago.

On topic, I don't use the mod, as I always supposed that since there are two seasons, summer and winter, each turn should be a half year by default

On a related note, I feel winter turns should be removed - nobody went to war in winter! Even today it just needs a bit of snow to close down entire modern European countries, imagine how it was like back then when there wasn't even a dirt track most of the time.

Only at winter Teutonic and oder crusaders launched raids to Lithuania because it was the only season than they could travel. Explanation frozen swamps for example, and there where a lot of them.

[newt]

I used to play my own version of 2tpy, but it takes too long for events to happen.

Now that there is no devastation anymore, 1tpy is fine for me.

[chris7ian]

4 turns yes I said it 4, for, four, fore, turns!!!

[Asterix]

4 turns yes I said it 4, for, four, fore, turns!!!

indeed, i think a four turn per year campaign would be interesting.

[chris7ian]

indeed, i think a four turn per year campaign would be interesting.

I got a script, simple paste into the campaign script and delete the ageing script. Then if you want, i dont mess with it, you can edit the edb and double the building turns.

[gilgalad]

I got a script, simple paste into the campaign script and delete the ageing script. Then if you want, i dont mess with it, you can edit the edb and double the building turns.

2TPY and 2 seasons I would like to know how to adjust the aging script back to a 2TPY as you hvae it for 4 turns??

I played older SS on 2TPY and adjusted the economy to fit. Made much more sense, yet still travel esp. was still too long, like going on crusade, a direct route should not take many years. Plus, it would have been nice for the mods to incorporate seasonal problems, esp. travel: shorter in Winter and not being able to cross the Alps until Summer, etc.

Well, thanks for any answers to the editing Question above, otherwise, since I am unsure what to do right now with the start of WWIII, I am going to take Albert's advice and get ready for WWIV

[♔ST0MPA♔]

4 turns yes I said it 4, for, four, fore, turns!!!

indeed, i think a four turn per year campaign would be interesting.

I like 4tpy useing alpacca's 4 seasons script.

declare_counter season_counter

monitor_event FactionTurnStart FactionIsLocal
	inc_counter season_counter 1
	
	; 0 equals winter
	if I_CompareCounter season_counter == 0
		console_command season winter
	end_if
	if I_CompareCounter season_counter > 0
		console_command season summer
	end_if
	; Reset the counter on the autumn turn so that it'll be 0 next turn
	if I_CompareCounter season_counter == 3
		set_counter season_counter -1
	end_if
end_monitor

[Kael BloodMoon]

2TPY for me.

[Kolaris8472]

2TPY because it gives me more time to build up and use interesting Family Members/Agents

Although I am playing 1TPY for my first 6.4 campaign because I want to enjoy the slow-growing cities. Afaik 2TPY cities grow twice as fast as 1TPY cities.

[newt]

Turn wise it's the same. Meneth's version lowers the farming level so it's actually slower.

[merocaine]

1 TPY, as God intended.

[Asterix]

1 TPY, as God intended.

rather, as Kong intended.