Re: [Amendment] Membership of the Consilium de Civitates
How often does Hex exercise a veto where the CDC is concerned? It may have the power but I can assure people that Hex is loathe to get involved in the Curia. I was keen to establish independence betwen Hex and the Curia so that both could complement the site. I did not want them to be totally divorced which this amendment seems to drag us all towards.
Where Citizen votes are concerned I cannot think of a time when Hex has overruled the CDC (I might be wrong). Hex might make noises by engaging in debate, but those are very rare too. It's been many years since TWC won independence and I had to fight very hard within the CDC to ensure that people didn't have their citizen badges removed for being on one side of the other. One of those battles was very, very hard fought. I won't deny I was very tempted to simply declare that what I wanted would be but I resisted the temptation and allowed the debate to run it's course. I cannot remember, off hand the result of that particular clash, but I do know that aside from feeling very uneasy about what was being proposed I restricted myself to using discussion. I am convinced my policy of non interference in the CDC was correct then and remains correct now - though sometimes eyebrows get raised from those hallowed halls.
I think VP's ideas have merit in the sense that it is laudable to get increased participation from the general citizenry. I would ask him to consider, though - how often does Hex run for a seat? What is the proportion of Hex involvement overall compared to the rest of the citizenry? Does he want to create (as this does) a barrier between the CDC/Curia and Hex which, I believe, will begin to emulate the divisions under ON all those years ago. As someone asked in another debate -
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An Honourable Member
Just as an aside -- can you give a list of the recent times that this would be even a factor? Please establish a need before asking to amend.
As to Hex veto in the processes - Hex seldom gets involved and when it does it has often been asked to (for evidence etc). It might sound trite but being on Hex does give you a different perspective at times. This is no bad thing. It is not everything, also - so being disagreed with is good too
Last edited by imb39; January 22, 2011 at 02:50 AM.