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    This is the correct family tree for Antiochus the Great:
    Antiochus III ~ Laodice III
    Antiochus Seleucus Mithridates Ardys Laodice Cleopatra Antiochis

    Antiochus (221-193): Firstborn son of Antiochus III, appointed joint king in 210 BC by his father after he went East. Married his younger sister Laodice IV, but died in 193.

    Seleucus IV Philopator (?-175):
    Secondborn son of Antiochus III. Became the heir in 193, after the death of Antiochus. Later married his sister Laodice IV, with whom he had three children: Antiochus, Demetrios I Soter and daughter Laodice V.

    Ardys (unknown)

    Laodice IV (unknown)

    Cleopatra I (204-176)

    Antiochis ():
    Married Ptolemy V, king of Egypt with whom she had three children: Ptolemy VI, Cleopatra II and Ptolemy VII.

    Mithridates (215-163): Son of Antiochus. Became king after his brother (Seleucus) death in 175. Assumed the name Antiochus IV (Theos) Epiphanes ("manifest God"); later also Antiochus IV Nikephoros ("bringer of victory). Briefly after the Peace treaty at Apamea, he went to Rome as a hostage, but was later exchanged for Demetrios I, son of Seleucus. Married his sister Laodice IV with whom he had three children: sons Antiochus V, Alexander Balas and a daughter Laodice VI.

    Antiochus' generals:

    • Zeuxis (helped Antiochus with the rebellion of Molon and was a general at the battle of Magnesia; perhaps became satrap of Lydia; sued for peace with Romans after Magnesia)
    • Xenon (an unsuccesful general during the rebellion of Molon)
    • Theodotus Hemiolius (an able infantry commander, later served under Antiochus in his atempt at invading Ptolemaic Syria; perhaps governor of Coele-Syria)
    • Nicarchus (together with Theodotus led the phalanx at the battle of Raphia; perhaps governor of Coele-Syria)
    • Alexander of Acarnania (a friend of Philip V, but later a general under Antiochus III... he urged Antiochus to invade Greece... died in 191)
    • Philotas (served Antiochus III as general and governor of Abydos during the Roman-Syrian war)
    • Polyxenidas (a Rhodian, who commanded some Cretan mercenaries in Hyrkania during Antiochus' eastern campaign; later became the chief admiral of the Syrian fleet in the Roman-Syrian war and managed to defeat the allied Roman-Pergamon-Rhodian fleet)
    • Menippus (mentioned alongside Polyxenidas, but his role is uncertain)
    The family tree (where I wrote some info about certain members) is according to year of birth of his children.
    Hope this is of help when you correct the characters in Seleucid campaign.

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    Last edited by Rex Basiliscus; January 19, 2011 at 02:49 PM.

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    Will this be used?

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    Yes, I made these corrections to the Seleucid campaign, and it is on my list of things that need to be changed in all the campaigns.

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    http://www.third-millennium-library....-THE-EAST.html

    Came across this link .. seems to be a pretty good and detailed read on the House of Seleucus. I've only skimmed through it but it looks fairly useful. I'll have agood read through tomorrow and see what else I can add, esp with regards to Generals etc.

    Cheers

    TTRouble

    Last edited by TTRouble; April 26, 2011 at 07:43 PM.

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    After reading through this, Ardys is actually his son, not daughter It seems he and his brother Mithridates were sent with an army to Asia Minor in 197 BC.

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    You're kidding me, right? After you made me change them all?

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    One source says he was his son, one "he" was his daughter... I don't know what he or she was lol

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    I'm still going reading through the early chapter - 17 of that link and its opened my opinion of Antiochus III a fair bit. From what I can tell the first Ardy's mentioned in the early years of the kings reign was a general while it does look as if Antiochus did have a daughter of the same name. I'm going to try and double check everything I do before saying its worth putting in.

    So far this is what I've gleaned so far and which may or may not be useful

    Generals:

    Epigenes - called "Beloved General" and also Kings Friend. Veteran, Revered by the Seleucid Army. Strategos but due to politcal intrigues with Hermais, the Prime Minister was forced to resign his post before the campaign against Molon in the East and with that the Seleucid Army lost 6000 veteran soldiers.
    Xenon - more info required- initially joint commander of the army sent to fight Molon
    Theodutus Hemiolius "The one and half" - possibly the same Theodutus that was initially joint commander of the army with Xenon sent to fight Molon
    Xenoetas - Achaean Adventurer, made Strategos by the king for the war against the rebel Molon. Friend of Hermais. Defeated by Molon.
    Zeuixs - Based in the west of the empire. more info required
    Hermogenes -Based in the west of the empire. more info required
    Ardy - Based in the west of the empire. more info required
    Theodutus "The Aetolian" - Ptolemic General of Coele_Syria. Defected to Antiochus before Raphia
    Nicarchus - More info required.
    Ceraeas - Ptolemic General, Defected to Antiochus before Raphia
    Hippolochus - Ptolemic General, Thessalian, Defected to Antiochus before Raphia. condottieri - which i think means Mercenary. Had 400 cavalry defect with him.

    Adrimals:
    Diognetus - Nauarchos, Commander of the Seleucid fleet. Commanded fleet at Raphia

    Physician:
    Apollophanes - Kings Physician, Wise council. Helped discover Hermais plot to assassinate Antiochus

    Prime Minister:
    Hermais - Prime Minister, Council member, powerful, corrupt, intolerant, muderous. Attempted to assassinate the King but was entrapped and executed

    Governors and Saytraps:

    Diogenes - Governor of Susa. Loyal, promoted by Antiochus to Governor of Media, General
    Pythiades - Governor of Red Sea Province. Loyal, General
    Apollodorus - Member of the Adeiagnes (Kings Council ???), Promoted to Governor of Susa.
    Tychon - archigrammateus (Chief secretary) of the Royal Army. Made Governor of the Red Sea Province


    Family :

    Antipater - Nephew of Antiochus III, emissary of the King.
    Achaeus - Cousin of Antiochus III, initially loyal campaigned for the King in the West against Attalus King of Pergamon. Recovered most territories lost in Asia Minor and reduced Attalus to Pergamon only. Later rebelled, based himself at Sardis and proclamied himself king.

    What has surprised me quiet a bit is how loyal all of the Greek cities in the East were to the Seleucid kings. Even duing the rebellions, the rebel's could not trust the Greeks/Macedonian's from simply switching sides as soon as the King showed up. This is basically what happened to Molon, where he could not trust his Greek/Macedonian troops, and during the eventual battle all of the Hellenistic troops went over to Antiochus III as soon as he appeared on the field.

    "Wherever, the royal army came on its homeward march the King was met with expressions of satisfaction..."

    Seleucid Military HQ was based in Apamea.

    I think posted this in another thread ages back but in case I didn't:

    http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...7604.gloss/pdf

    Cheers

    TTrouble

    Last edited by TTRouble; April 28, 2011 at 11:45 AM.

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    Hermeias was executed before the start of the campaign, just so you know.

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    Hi Rex.. i wasn;t sure about mentioning him but I've had one of my generals/family members show up with that name in the two new campaigns and didn;t think anything of it until yesterday. From all accounts he seems to have been a really nasty bit of work.

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