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    Default Neutral units in your land.. I want them out!

    Is there any way to prevent armies from neutral factions to enter my land, or ask them to get out? They may just be going through, but they just annoy the heck out of me. When I tell my units to go from A to B, if there is any neutral army in-between sometimes it screws the auto-patch generator and my units go the *really* long way..

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    Oh and they just love to stand of bridges and up my routes..

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    Dunno if its any help matey, but you can prevent your stack going the 'really long way' by hitting backspace which stops it dead in its tracks. Can also hold down right mouse and draw out a line where you'd like em to go.

    Shame though that we never got a diplomatic option..."Oi ---- off my land!!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireright View Post

    Shame though that we never got a diplomatic option..."Oi ---- off my land!!"
    That is what I was hoping to find.. Well, so long for diplomacy I guess!

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    Offer them military access, so they cant block your units (except bridges and some very small valley), and cant destroy the lands.

    Or kill them all, like I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoler View Post
    Offer them military access, so they cant block your units (except bridges and some very small valley), and cant destroy the lands.

    Or kill them all, like I do
    Thanks man! Hadn't tried this yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supermoler View Post
    Offer them military access, so they cant block your units (except bridges and some very small valley), and cant destroy the lands.

    Or kill them all, like I do
    Military access means you're allied, not neutral. Devastation is only from enemies.

    Just stick some peasant forts at chokepoints. It's cheap and gives you an extra turn or two to prepare your army against invaders.
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    If you have enough money, bribe them. It will hurt your diplomatic relations a bit, but if the stack is small it will not be too costly and plus you might gain some useful units.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebelyell2006 View Post
    If you have enough money, bribe them. It will hurt your diplomatic relations a bit, but if the stack is small it will not be too costly and plus you might gain some useful units.
    I don't think it's a good ideea to bribe, I find bribing in M2TW much more expensive than it is in RTW;
    it's not worth it
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    How much does it cost to bribe? Every single time I have tried it it gets rejected. I do not have the option to enter an amount of money either, just to select the option "bribe" in the diplo menu. i expected sometimes to see the enemy unit asking me for a price, but it has never happened

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McG View Post
    How much does it cost to bribe? Every single time I have tried it it gets rejected. I do not have the option to enter an amount of money either, just to select the option "bribe" in the diplo menu. i expected sometimes to see the enemy unit asking me for a price, but it has never happened
    If they do't offer a price, it means you don't have enough money anyway to bribe them. Add 100k in your cheat console, try it then and they will offer a price.

    But yeah agree with you it's a real pain. It's one of the aspects where i like Empire more than medievall. How many times that i see a neutral (or even allied) stack outside a settlement standing for turns in a row, knowing they were just waiting to attack me

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    Quote Originally Posted by eXistenZ View Post
    If they do't offer a price, it means you don't have enough money anyway to bribe them. Add 100k in your cheat console, try it then and they will offer a price.
    idk, I was playing a campaign with cheats (just for fun ) and I had like 10 milions, I tried to bribe a rebel family member but he declined .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by tudor93 View Post
    idk, I was playing a campaign with cheats (just for fun ) and I had like 10 milions, I tried to bribe a rebel family member but he declined .....
    Try upgrading your diplomat then (give him some traits through the cheat console), with some extra traits he can become a master briber

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    In Britannia I was Ireland and the welsh (neutral) set a fully stacked army right outside Dublin for like twenty turns. I gate up diplomacy, slaughtered the army and took out wales within three turns. I'd say give up on the bribing and just go got the kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McG View Post
    Is there any way to prevent armies from neutral factions to enter my land, or ask them to get out? They may just be going through, but they just annoy the heck out of me. When I tell my units to go from A to B, if there is any neutral army in-between sometimes it screws the auto-patch generator and my units go the *really* long way..
    When this happens I usually move my army in front of the neutral army. It can sometimes give a hint to the AI to move there troops off my territory on their turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stitch074 View Post
    When this happens I usually move my army in front of the neutral army. It can sometimes give a hint to the AI to move there troops off my territory on their turn.
    Or they see it as an invitation to attack you, serioulsy tough happen to me a couple of times

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    What I recommend is setting up forts along your border. The AI armies never go through army control zones, they just stop and stare at them until they either besiege the forts or find a different path.

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    Default Re: Neutral units in your land.. I want them out!

    i usually give them a turn or so to make progress for wherever itis they're headed
    and if they havent made any moves whatsoever
    then i give my aspiring generals some xp by attacking them

    following turn, they come offering peace
    i make them pay tribute or money first

    voila, you get them off your lands, your general's got xo, and you got some florins out of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exarch View Post
    i usually give them a turn or so to make progress for wherever itis they're headed
    and if they havent made any moves whatsoever
    then i give my aspiring generals some xp by attacking them

    following turn, they come offering peace
    i make them pay tribute or money first

    voila, you get them off your lands, your general's got xo, and you got some florins out of it
    Unless, of course, it was either their intention on attacking, or they pull a classic CA AI and don't surrender until after they are dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan McG View Post
    Is there any way to prevent armies from neutral factions to enter my land, or ask them to get out?
    It's called "Aggressive persuasion"

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