Military ancillaries

[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]

Sorry to post this again but my previous plea went unanswered. I need a list of all military ancillaries available to both east and west, cities where i can obtain em, and general's stars and traits needed. Recently 2 of my generals in the east received cool ones i never saw before, that of Euphatensis region i believe and that of Syria. Unfortunately both died, one in autocalc battle (my laziness) and one of disease and since then i havent been able to obtain these ancilleries no matter what new general i send. Also, would like to know if there is any way to regain loyalty points for generals. I have few quiet young ones with huge battle experience but due to their extensive battle history they lost all their loyalty points and now im afraid they will rebel so i have no choice but to house em as governorns in some flea ridden cities.

[Joar]

TW-fanboy made an office guide for RR a little while back - so if you ask him nicely, maybe he'll do one for SAI as well?

Another thing you can do yourself, if you remember the name of the ancillary office, is to go to the modfolder, data/text/ancillaries.txt, check out what its real name is and then go to the EDA, data/export_descr_ancillaries.txt, and look up its triggers.

[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]

Thanks Joar i will look it up in the modfolder. I was pretty sure i saw a list or similar post on ancillaries within SAJ forum. My mind must be playing tricks on me then. Any help with the loyalty part?????

[julianus heraclius]

Gaining a military and administrative ancillary depends on what it is and where it is. Most titles are now region based (this was to prevent a person in Antioch gaining the Dux Britainnae, for example), so you will also have to own that particular territory. Again, for example, if you don;t own Britian then you will not be able to gain any titles belonging to that region. Also a general will need to have gained certain trats such as loyalty, management, being a good infantry or cavalry commander etc, etc.

When I have time, I will make an ancillaries list.

[Anibal at portas]

Gaining a military and administrative ancillary depends on what it is and where it is. Most titles are now region based (this was to prevent a person in Antioch gaining the Dux Britainnae, for example), so you will also have to own that particular territory. Again, for example, if you don;t own Britian then you will not be able to gain any titles belonging to that region. Also a general will need to have gained certain trats such as loyalty, management, being a good infantry or cavalry commander etc, etc.

When I have time, I will make an ancillaries list.

i love the historical rol with the military titles and ancilliares,give great realism and inmersion to the campaign.

[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]

Yes JH, i remember u fixing that bug where general in Antioch roamed as a dux britainnae, but i never knew 2 new military titles existed in the east (euphatensis and syria) so thats y i was asking for the list to see if there were more hidden somewhere. Anyway i will follow Joars advice and look them up myself in the files. Is there any chance from preventing good general's rebelling after they lose all their loyalty rings?

[julianus heraclius]

Yes JH, i remember u fixing that bug where general in Antioch roamed as a dux britainnae, but i never knew 2 new military titles existed in the east (euphatensis and syria) so thats y i was asking for the list to see if there were more hidden somewhere. Anyway i will follow Joars advice and look them up myself in the files. Is there any chance from preventing good general's rebelling after they lose all their loyalty rings?

Good idea. You will need to check the export_descr_character_traits.txt file triggers as nearly all of the roman administrative and military titles are triggered via that file. For example the Dux Syriae et Eufratensis Syriae trigger looks like this:

;------------------------------------------
Trigger trigger_office_dux_syriae_et_eufratensis_syriae_1a
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition FactionType empire_west
and EndedInSettlement
and SettlementName Callinicum
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and I_SettlementOwner Callinicum = empire_west
and SettlementBuildingExists >= governors_palace
and IsGeneral
and not IsFactionLeader
and not IsFactionHeir
and Attribute Command > 0
and Attribute Loyalty > 0

Affects Dux_Syriae_et_Eufratensis_Syriae 1 Chance 100
;------------------------------------------
Trigger trigger_office_dux_syriae_et_eufratensis_syriae_1b
WhenToTest CharacterTurnEnd
Condition FactionType empire_west
and EndedInSettlement
and SettlementName Carrhae
and RemainingMPPercentage = 100
and I_SettlementOwner Carrhae = empire_west
and SettlementBuildingExists >= governors_palace
and IsGeneral
and not IsFactionLeader
and not IsFactionHeir
and Attribute Command > 0
and Attribute Loyalty > 0

Affects Dux_Syriae_et_Eufratensis_Syriae 1 Chance 100

So you see he must have a command and loyalty attribute of at least 1 and the faction must be in possesion of either one of these towns (Carrhae or Callinicum).

I suppose I could've included Antioch but I don't want to make it too easy to require titles. Obviously when a title is of greater importance then the attributes required will be more as well.

Hope this helps.

[Flavius Vegetius Renatus]

I see now y i was able to get some titles and miss the other ones. Main requirement for military titles is "SettlementBuildingExists >= governors_palace"

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

Hey, long time no see, Anibal ad Portas!

[Anibal at portas]

hola amigo,retome de nuevo el mod y cual es mi sorpresa que ademas de los arreglos hay en camino una nueva version para finales de este mes,lo cual es maravilloso y no se si esperar la salida de esa version o empezar una campaña con la ultima version.

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

Ya veo. Es bueno verte por aquí .

[Anibal at portas]

pseudo me gustaria saber que nivel de dificultad es el recomendado para jugar en unos parametros realistas tanto en el mapa de batalla como en el de campaña.
como amante de la historia que soy,el nivel de realismo es muy importante para mi a ver si me asesoras en eso compañero.

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

Yo diría que M/M o H/H, al menos esas son las configuraciones que uso yo. Aunque debo ser honesto y decir que, como dicen en inglés: "I get my ass whooped" , incluso en M/M. Especialmente cuando juego la campaña del 361 AD. Pero eso se debe a que soy un general malísimo .

[Anibal at portas]

Yo diría que M/M o H/H, al menos esas son las configuraciones que uso yo. Aunque debo ser honesto y decir que, como dicen en inglés: "I get my ass whooped" , incluso en M/M. Especialmente cuando juego la campaña del 361 AD. Pero eso se debe a que soy un general malísimo .

la configuracion m/m es la que juego,pero no se si al final va a resultar demasiado facil cuando pare las hordas barbaras a lo largo del rio rhin y el danuvio y contraataque,por ahora estoy ganando las batallas facilmente exceptuando algunas que he sido derrotado,no se si es correcto en terminos realistas derrotar a tantos barbaros,pienso que roma estaba mejor organizada y disciplinada y conocia mejores tacticas en el campo de batalla que cualquier nacion barbara de la epoca exceptuando los persas.
las dos o tres batallas que he perdido me han producido un par de huecos en mi defensa imperial a lo largo de europa y ahora tengo que extraer tropas de otros sitios para taponar,hasta perdi un buen general en una de esas derrotas,sin contar que el frente oriental del imperio con persia por ahora esta en calma.
llevo dos turnos,viendo esto dame tu opinion de si devo seguir la campaña porque esta bien en terminos realistas o debo empezar otra de nuevo en hard/hard.
otra pregunta ¿los turnos de 6 por año vienen implementados por defecto o se deben instalar en las opciones?,yo es que mire y solo vi de 4 turnos,deduciendo que los de 6 turnos estan instalados por defecto.
y ¿sabes algo de la nueva version de cuando estara lista?
un saludo.

[PSEUDO ROMANUS]

Bueno, el único que puede contestar qué nivel es mejor para ti, eres tú mismo, amigo. Si es muy sencillo para ti M/M entonces empieza nuevamente en H/H. Al menos es lo que yo haría si fuera tú. Con respecto a los 6 turnos, no es una opción actual, será incorporada en la próxima versión.
Y sobre cuando estará lista, te daré la respuesta más común: Estará lista cuando esté terminada .

[Anibal at portas]

gracias compañero.
me parece que seguire la campaña,aunque la proxima la hare en hard/hard que sera mas realista para mi y sera ya con la proxima version.