Medieval India Total War

[Gowar]

India Total War 1190 - 1430

The Mod is set in medieval india in the year 1190, a land of balanced and intricate colourful kingdoms. From the shores of the tiny islamic kingdom to the Maldives to the mountains of Nepal kingdoms fluorish and prosper... but soon all is disturbed ... a large islamic invasion from the North West sent by the ghorid turks floods into parts of northern india. Nations must fight to survive or fall back against there fellow indians. Things begin to settle down for a time, things in the south are complex as the pandyas hoysala and chola all battle for supremacy. 50 years after the ghorid flood, a threat equally great appears as the Mongols invade through Tibet and into India. More problems for the Indians. Eventually in about 1390, the Timmurids also pay India a visit, casuing unimaginable destruction across North India. The campaign is long and complicated, the factions are varied and colourful, the land is exotic and the Warfare is glorious.

I have been thinking very much about such a campaign, It seems like a very attractive idea, there are so many attractive playable factions, imagine Nepal, tucked away in the mountains, Sri lanka and the maldives with there solid navy and trade structures. also the mongols and central indians as well as Turks and Timmurids. This seems like a very very agreeable campaign.

Note * I have no ability regarding the actual work involved in the practical constuction of my proposed Mod but I am prepared to offer unlimited support, ideas, designs, research and information in order to help those who are interested in working with me to make this Mod a reality.

[Calaurin]

Well, well...
Personally I would love to play the Indian medieval factions, that's an history which is really worth

However you should know that starting a mod requires both dedication and skill - not to curb your enthusiasm, this is just the truth.
If you just throw an idea on the arena without being prepared to sweat your life over it, then the most plausible outcome is that the idea will not survive long...
I'm not a modder myself but I read a lot of the TWC forums, and I know this is the common point-of-view on the matter.

Anyways, what the heck do I know, maybe someone will fall in love with your idea and will start working on it!
And if you like it so much, maybe you should start learning how to mod there are a lot of tools around.
I wish the best to this project!

[Atatürk]

Broken Crescent has India within that timeline, although it doesn't focus on it. Maybe you should check it out.

[Gowar]

I have had a look at broken crescent and seen the indian factions involved, I would however like to see something that focuses on some other areas of india like the east and the south aswell as focusing on the north. It's a good point though and I do acknowledge what your saying about the crossover of the dates and some of the factions that would likely be involved.

[Pazu the Kitsune]

I can help with info about Assam, Manipur and the Mughals, if you plan on including any of those

[Gowar]

I can help with info about Assam, Manipur and the Mughals, if you plan on including any of those

Thankyou that sounds really helpful, The Mughals would probably not feature in the game but the knigdoms of Kamarupa and Palas would be present around Manipur and Assam.

Cheers, James

[absinthia]

Note * I have no ability regarding the actual work involved in the practical constuction of my proposed Mod but I am prepared to offer unlimited support

so why bother?

[Pazu the Kitsune]

so why bother?

Dont shoot him down so soon....an idea is better than nothing, thats how my mod started out, some folks rly liked the idea, and i became dedicated enough to it to learn how to use photoshop, GIMP and Maya 3d.....

Everyone needs to start somewhere

[absinthia]

Everyone needs to start somewhere

in my opinion that starts with educating one self, not wishing someone else to be the means to ones own end.

sure, this is the suggestions thread. but suggesting someone else make a mod to ones own preference will simply not cut the cheese.

[Gowar]

Absinthia -

I have seen numerous mods constructed which have worse subject matters than that I have proposed , I can allready see from my short time here that this is a site essentially run by
modders and people with the ability to construct games, as oppposed to people with energy, interest, experience in what would make an enjoyable campaign. Lots of mods have and are being made which are produced by people who know how to make them but don't know the first thing about history, playability, accuracy and design. I have no doubt that this is a good campaign proposal however it seems unlikely to ever make any progress because I don't know how to mod. I don't know why it is that people think that just because they know how to construct a game that therefore they know how to design and produce games. A good campaign is like a house, modders are simply builders, designers are the architects, but it seems that many builders are taking into there own hands to do absaloutly everything which explains why there are so many drafty, ugly uncomfortable houses being built.

All I want is someone with technical ability and expertise to help me with the construction and to an extent the ideas involved in making a game that I know fine well would be very enjoyable and balanced.

-James

[Spike]

Absinthia -

I have seen numerous mods constructed which have worse subject matters than that I have proposed , I can allready see from my short time here that this is a site essentially run by
modders and people with the ability to construct games, as oppposed to people with energy, interest, experience in what would make an enjoyable campaign. Lots of mods have and are being made which are produced by people who know how to make them but don't know the first thing about history, playability, accuracy and design. I have no doubt that this is a good campaign proposal however it seems unlikely to ever make any progress because I don't know how to mod. I don't know why it is that people think that just because they know how to construct a game that therefore they know how to design and produce games. A good campaign is like a house, modders are simply builders, designers are the architects, but it seems that many builders are taking into there own hands to do absaloutly everything which explains why there are so many drafty, ugly uncomfortable houses being built.

All I want is someone with technical ability and expertise to help me with the construction and to an extent the ideas involved in making a game that I know fine well would be very enjoyable and balanced.

-James

be careful with your opinions... of course, you are not a modder and will never understood how much energy and feelings that a modder invest in their modifications...

[Gowar]

- Preliminary Camapign Map showing general areas of faction control at game start circa 1190AD

[Russian Gondor]

Me and Druvatar will be starting a mod focusing on India during the Mughal Empire and the lost Empire during the summer. I recommend you learn some stuff during the time before July and you can help us out.

[Gowar]

Thankyou, I appreciate your offer very much, However at present all I am really doing is seeing how far I can take this current Idea before it is either succesful or (more likely) unsuccesful.

However I am always interested and happy to help people with research and information gathering, so let me know whenever you need some stuff on that.

Cheers, James

[nessj999]

it will not be successful when you don't have the ability to mod anything !!!
why don't you learn a bit ? i mean its not that difficult ! just try and do it, i did it too,
for my mod, and now its progressing !

[Gowar]

eeuuhhh...I have a crippling fear of modding files etc.

Really I'm just not any good at that kind of stuff, surely someone who is able to mod well would look and say "hey, that looks interessting, maybe I can help with that mod." All people do is tell me that I should Mod it myself, I just think it's getting a bit ridiculous how people keep thinking the guy whose Idea it is must actually program it himself, he can't just come up with ideas and designs, he has to actually has to get his hands dirty.

If anyone wants to actually help me with any modding that would be really useful, I don't really want anyyone else after know trying to convince me to learn to mod, I don't neeed that I just need some actual modders to start the construction stuff.

[Rahwana]

eeuuhhh...I have a crippling fear of modding files etc.

Really I'm just not any good at that kind of stuff, surely someone who is able to mod well would look and say "hey, that looks interessting, maybe I can help with that mod." All people do is tell me that I should Mod it myself, I just think it's getting a bit ridiculous how people keep thinking the guy whose Idea it is must actually program it himself, he can't just come up with ideas and designs, he has to actually has to get his hands dirty.

If anyone wants to actually help me with any modding that would be really useful, I don't really want anyyone else after know trying to convince me to learn to mod, I don't neeed that I just need some actual modders to start the construction stuff.

you can always learn and try to not so pessimistic over yourselves

[nessj999]

man... honestly

its nice you have an idea ... but everyone who likes the idea and can mod, wants to do the things, as he thinks it's good.
no one will just come to you and say :
give me orders, captain
and will then do everything for you, what you want, and you just tell everyone what to do...
why should anyone do that ?
but when you HELP and WORK WITH them then it's all over different...
know what i mean ?

you cant just expect talented people to do all the work for you, just because you got a nice idea...
modding is from very easy to difficult very different,
you will definitly find something you can do with modding, man !

[Russian Gondor]

It took me half a year to actually get a mod that loads. All you need is patience! Start slowly, learn to create your mod folder, learn to create your map, and go from there. TWC has amazing amounts of tutorials and members that are willing to help!

[Gowar]

I'm not simply looking for someone to take orders! I simply want someone who will work with me in partnership to try and create a mod, I have provided other people with information and research findings in the past and I just feel it isn't too unreasonable for someone who can mod to say okay, I'll work with you on that, then we exchange Ideas, I provide information he provides information, we exchange designs, make choices, he starts producing some of the actuall modded files, we expand and get others onboard and have a team of 10 or so people who all contribute designs and ideas to try and make the mod the best possible.

Do'nt forget, it's not my Mod, I won't keep it buried under ground wrapped in an asbestos blanket hermetically sealed from all of your grubby hands. It would be released and used by anyone who wishes to use it. It's just my Idea, if it's a good mod, it's good for everyone.

I would like to remind people that this thread is still designed to discuss and help with a proposed Mod, not to continually lecture me about learning to construct a mod.

please anyone who is interested in helping me or discussing ideas, please come forward

- James