What is that Pope doing now?

[General Dithrick]

Okay, so it's Friday night and your in front of your computer playing a nice game of Medieval 2: Total War and things seems to go nicely for a while. Racking up rebel settlements, putting those weaker factions to the sword, all that good stuff. But then you finally reach Italy and figured "Hey, why not set up some trade rights with His Holiness and get some Map info while I'm here?" So you send in your diplomat to Rome and noticed that Florence is under Papal Rule. No biggy, that usually happens, right? So after a nice little chat with the Pope and got to learn a tad bit more about his whereabouts things go South fast. Not only does the Pope control Florence and obviously Rome but he also controls Cagliari, Ajaccio, Valencia, Tunis, AND Zaragoza. About a turn or so later, a Crusade has been called and guess who's on their way to Cairo? Yep, that's right, Popey is. Guess he got sick and tired of nobody going to his Christen get-togethers so he figured he show them lazy Catholic kings a thing or two about Crusades.

So I ask you, my fellow Total War enthusiasts, what is the most insane, funny, sad, awesome, amazing, or stupid thing you've ever seen the Pope do in your campaigns? (By the way, the chuck of words above and its contents are of true story in one of my campaigns, no joke.)

[Shiina]

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=323950

Here read this or this

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=285227
Edit: this one ^ is not from the pope but still insane

[Kong_babylon]

Well... I once took out the Pope after he kept meddling too much with my internal affairs (God I always wanted to say that ) and when te time came to elect a new pope, the new one turned out to be on Moorish ground trying to take Algiers all by HIMSELF! And by this I mean ONE unit of his holy popyness trying to take on the whole might of the Moors inside their heartland. Not surprisingly he got himself killed after a couple turns.

[zekic]

And by this I mean ONE unit of his holy popyness trying to take on the whole might of the Moors inside their heartland. Not surprisingly he got himself killed after a couple turns.

Well i guess he was really insane..Somthing like:"I AM THE CHILD OF GOD I AM INVINCIBLE"

Well dont have alots of experience but stupidest thing pope has done was when france pope Excomnicated france(Counting that half of cardinals were from there).Also or it seem to me or pope really loves denmark?

[EmperorDan]

Not in my game, he keeps excomunicating them every 10 turns.... well I once wanted to get reconciled, so I went to him and offered Florence and the rest of Italy....because I also wanted to make a strong ally of him... but the he demanded that I become his vassals and that I pay an insane amount of florins....Bear in mind that he had only Rome and Venice left but was a greedy bastard!

[mikalos209]

Okay, so it's Friday night and your in front of your computer playing a nice game of Medieval 2: Total War and things seems to go nicely for a while. Racking up rebel settlements, putting those weaker factions to the sword, all that good stuff. But then you finally reach Italy and figured "Hey, why not set up some trade rights with His Holiness and get some Map info while I'm here?" So you send in your diplomat to Rome and noticed that Florence is under Papal Rule. No biggy, that usually happens, right? So after a nice little chat with the Pope and got to learn a tad bit more about his whereabouts things go South fast. Not only does the Pope control Florence and obviously Rome but he also controls Cagliari, Ajaccio, Valencia, Tunis, AND Zaragoza. About a turn or so later, a Crusade has been called and guess who's on their way to Cairo? Yep, that's right, Popey is. Guess he got sick and tired of nobody going to his Christen get-togethers so he figured he show them lazy Catholic kings a thing or two about Crusades.

So I ask you, my fellow Total War enthusiasts, what is the most insane, funny, sad, awesome, amazing, or stupid thing you've ever seen the Pope do in your campaigns? (By the way, the chuck of words above and its contents are of true story in one of my campaigns, no joke.)

Attack me, after i was nice and gave him Italy.

The pope being able to fight is unfair on so many levels.

[Gilkanese]

I was busy fighting in a triple front war against Scotland, France, and Holy Roman Empire (no idea how the heck I got into that mess )as England, when the pope decided he didn't like me fighting back, he gave me a warning to stop sieging Paris. Now, normally, the excommunication amounts to nothing, as the other European factions can never work up the balls to take a swipe at me. So I kept sieging. I was excommunicated, then to my surprise, all the factions I was bordering I was already not at war with (Milan, Spain, and Portugal.) declared war on me. Wasn't really a big deal, as they were all 1-3 province factions so I thought it was no big deal. Then next turn, a crusade was declared on Caen, and every European faction joined it. I quit the game when I lost all my gains in France and the Holy Roman Empire and six crusading armies were milling around the remainders of my under-garrisoned and devastated French holding. I left the game at that point.

The pope does this to me every game at some point, I just wasn't expecting the wrath of European factions to be so great.

[Tia]

You should try being excommunicated as France, every 10 turns
"A Crusade has been called!"
Toulouse

One time the Pope actually came and besieged Paris, (kicked the ever living out of him)

[Leaf-Fan-Forever]

What does the Pope look like in battle? Is he just the generic commanding General Knight?

[Tia]

Yeah

[nhinhonhinho]

Nothing special just a general knight tho! The only difference is

1. On the campaign map he's dress like a Pope
2. You attack him you get excommunication

[painter]

3. When you kill him in battle, you will be reconciled.

[EmperorDan]

3. When you kill him in battle, you will be reconciled.

assuming the new pope likes you, right?

[painter]

Well, you could always repeat the process until you find one that likes you.

[Old Geezer]

In the mods that I have been playing, the death of a Pope or the excommed Faction Leader does not always lead to reconciliation. This is especially true of HRE early in the Early Campaign. I have no idea why.

[nhinhonhinho]

Oh it's normal. In my vanilla Spanish campaign i kill Moor, Portugal, France and let Spanish cavalry rode to Italian states, kill everyone including well...3-4 Pope and sack cities there.

The next thing is the Popes keep call Crusades again me and even after i kill the Pope over and over again it isn't lead to reconciliation. Even when my king died it won't happen. I even not allow to vote the new Pope! Maybe The Christian world look at me as a demons or something like that

Then i decided to wipe out every single Christian faction (alongside with the Mongol) only found the Papal state can't be destroy

[byzantine empire]

Okay this is the reason I stoped playing vinilla every 10 turns into a game if i owned more than 5 regions hed EXCOMUNICATE ME! For till he died and the next pope died. It got really annoying. so then i started playing stanless steel and every time I play as the hre he excommunicates me for no reason!

[painter]

nhinhonhinho, did you ever get reconciled after all that? Because if you were the sole remaining Christian faction, any priest you have ought to automatically self-promote into the new pope.

byzantine empire, you must have been doing it wrong then. It's easy enough to avoid getting excommunicated even while expanding aggressively.

[PrestigeX]

I never see him do much in any of the games I've played, except once while on crusade, i gifted jerusalem to the pope, as well as acre, and antioch (which i took at the same time) -- and all he did was train Swiss Guards and trebuchets.. My hope was to see him fight off the egyptians in my stead.

[General Dithrick]

One thing I've noticed in the retrofit mod is that the Pope always declares a crusade on Cairo... who the hell wants flippin' Cairo?!