late Mameluke units

[matmohair1]

will khassaki and other late Mameluke units be included ?

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[wudang_clown]

Most likely no, because BC3 will end around 1300.

[nnnm]

well I think Kasskiyyah are in BC Royal mamluk cavalry and they were not late mamluk units. actually most early mamluks were Khasskiyyah

[wudang_clown]

Yes, but what I meant was that we won't include late era units.

[yls3431]

I think there shouldnt be such a big difference between the late period units and the early ones. We should make the difference by promotion, upgrade and army tradition . That way there would be much more balanced gameplay.

[matmohair1]

Acre 1291 !

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Late Mameluke & an early example of a plated mail corselet - 1290

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Late 13th century battle between crusaders and Mamluks - by Igor Dzis

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[Neige]

Late 13th century battle between crusaders and Mamluks - by Igor Dzis

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OMG, that helmet!

[matmohair1]

Mamluk gunner 1280 !

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[wudang_clown]

That's nice, but late units won't be included.

And units using gunpowder all the more.

[Dago Red]

I would focus on the just getting their current plans enacted, refined with our suggestions and then put out... then bother them about late era editions for the following release or patch.

If those zany, giant fireworks looking things were really employed in battles as early as 1280, then they sound like fair game to me! Sounds like one of those fun tactical units like naptha (though that with various other ignitable mixtures was actually very common) you could strive for building up academic centers for a hundred years before finally achieving. I doubt they would be good anywhere but siege battles.

[Neige]

Well, gunpowder was definitely present in Middle East in the time frame of this mod, that is proven by several written evidences, afaik. Though implementing it would require new models for cannons, because the current vanilla ones are too advanced and look too European imo.

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[matmohair1]

OMG, that helmet!

which one ?

[Neige]

The one that the knight is wearing in the lower left of the picture. I'd love to see it in the mod.

Though it would not look as good in game. The cloth would not flap in the wind.

[matmohair1]

The one that the knight is wearing in the lower left of the picture. I'd love to see it in the mod.

Though it would not look as good in game. The cloth would not flap in the wind.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/downl...o=file&id=2357

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[matmohair1]

good news, regarding Scale and Mail armor such as A, its been in use during the 13th century and was also available in east Asia

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Mongol or Korean example 1231

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[Shasqua]

You're awesome, matmohair1.

I've never seen Mamluk armor before.