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Nazi Parties
Hey all i was just wondering wich countries have them and if you can actually vote for them, here in sweden we have one but im not sure you can actually elect them to the election. Ive heard that it would be a crime against swedish constitutions and stuff...
so any other country have em?, ore anyone have an opinion about em?
You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?
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How d'you mean "Nazi parties"?
Are we talking about fully subscribed Nationalist Socialists, with attendant greatcoats and jackboots, plotting the rise of the Fourth Aryan Reich?
Or are we just talking about pale imitations like the British National Party, who consist mainly of ignorant working-class types and frustrated Mail reading Middle-Englanders who blame their own failures and incompetencies on an influx of foreigners "stealin' uz' jobs, like"?
Saviors of the Japanese
In the US we have 2 and a half. The one is the US Nazi party, we have the Green Nazi Party (Nazi enviromentalists), and we have the KKK.
As these groups advocate and, according to a someone who visits this board, plan violent overthrow of the US Constitution I am very much opposed these groups (this is an understatement).
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If you look at the Green Nazi's site its definately a joke. Read some of their "articles".Originally Posted by Farnan
A party called "Libratarian Green Nazi Party" is full of contradictions in isself, its literally impossible for something like that to be real.
On a separate note.
Its funny how people like "turks" being harassed by Nazis isn't looked down upon by people. I guess the new focus of Nazis are muslims, and that is probably how these parties plan on getting into power again.
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I wouldn't even say the KKK is half a Nazi party. They hate blacks, Jews, Catholics, and all that junk but most don't know the first thing about National Socialism. They're mostly a bunch of racist morons.
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I have to agree with you on this one. However, remember that various Klan groups in the United States are actively cooperating with the National Socialist Movement. Many Klan groups have their own paramilitary units, which are exceedingly well-armed (such as the group based in Fort Smith, Arkansas). I wouldn't put the possibility of extreme violence past any of them.
The National Socialist Movement, on the other hand, is well-organised and funded, and appears to be growing. After the Toledo riots, a several months ago, they gained about 7000 members, nationwide (this, partly due to the inundation of the media that weekend about the riots ... free publicity). They even seem to have a sense of themselves as socialists, and many of the people they are drawing to them are from the left side of the spectrum (especially since they share the NSM's hatred of Bush and Israel).
So, you have the NSM, providing a loose structure for other racist groups. You have the Klan groups, providing a paramilitary base. And many of the latter are members of the former. Besides this, there are other "rightwing" groups that actively cooperate with the NSM.
If I told how I know all of this, I would have to kill you, however ...
Get born again.
Actually, if you threw out the racist stuff they say, which is, really, their entire platform, they've got some ideas that would actually sound rather, hrm, moderate. Tougher immigration laws, pro-green power, etc. Interesting to say the least. Too bad they are racist pigs more concerned with inciting hate crimes.
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Saviors of the Japanese
Did you ever see any videos of KKK marches in the 60s? If you show it to someone who doesn't know where it is they could confuse it with 1930s Germany.
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Praepositus
In Russia the closest thing we have to an electable Nazi is Zhirinovski, but he's a joke.
It's not the fact that you can vote for them, it's the fact that you can easily get your ass kicked on the subway by them which worries me.
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Yeah, but in America the various naxi groups draw a lot of negative attention from the government and the F.B.I.....various F.B.I.(Maybe C.I.A.?) infiltrations into the KKK and various nazi parties has led to many succesful arrests and has seriously weakened the nazi parties. Its also weakened the possability of succesfully running a nazi party...some people scoff at this and say stuff like "Land of the Free indeed"...but I support my governments actions in infiltrating these groups and finding any excuses they can to arrest and prosecute them....for real crimes of course not just for free speech within the letter of the law. The KKK has never been as powerful as under their infamous leader David Duke, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Duke Who now considers himself a credible author/politician of sorts. The KKK has always had ties to other racist organizations including the American Nazi Party in its various forms....racists rely on their own kind of course, who else are they gonna rely on?
Actually, once a long time ago the KKK was much more powerful...herese an excerpt from Wikipedia...the KKK's very first incarnation was established in 1865...
"The founding in 1915 by William J. Simmons of a second distinct group using the same name was inspired by the newfound power of the modern mass media, via the film The Birth of a Nation and inflammatory and anti-Semitic newspaper accounts surrounding the trial and lynching of accused murderer Leo Frank. This second Klan fought to maintain the dominance of white Protestants over Blacks, Asians, Catholics, and Jews. This group, although preaching racism and accused of violent activities, operated openly, and at its peak in the 1920s claimed millions of members; if these estimates are to be believed, about 15% of the eligible population of the U.S. were members.[1] Many politicians at all levels of government were members, and at its height the organization secretly or openly influenced some state governments, including Oregon and Indiana. Scandals involving rape, murder, and support for the Nazis destroyed its popularity in the late 1920s, and by 1928 the Klan was orders of magnitude smaller and weaker."
15% of all americans in 1920 were members of the KKK? wow...
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Well id rather have a nazi party leading then a communist party ofcourse... Nazis are good in their ways, the new nazis(mostly youths) keep the streets clean on night for swedish ppl to walk around being not robbed by some turk. However they are still idiots making it diffucult for honorble(following swedish laws) turks who doesnt deserve it, but id rather have new nazis in this country then not having em, otherwise no area in sweden would be safe walking...
You have a certain mentality, a "you vs them" and i know it is hard to see, but it is only your imagination which makes up enemies everywhere. I haven't professed anything but being neutral so why Do you feel the need to defend yourself from me?. Truly What are you defending? when there is nobody attacking?
If many people share that opinion, I weep for Sweden.
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I'm sad to see that some of my countrymen have this view on Nazis.Well id rather have a nazi party leading then a communist party ofcourse... Nazis are good in their ways, the new nazis(mostly youths) keep the streets clean on night for swedish ppl to walk around being not robbed by some turk. However they are still idiots making it diffucult for honorble(following swedish laws) turks who doesnt deserve it, but id rather have new nazis in this country then not having em, otherwise no area in sweden would be safe walking...
I'm even more sad that I live in one of the two municipality in Sweden that have ND (national democrats) in the municipal council (Haninge kommun)
With that said I must say I dispite ALL other voilent rasist/communist/anti-rasist/anti-commie group/whatever
BTW, I am a so called "Svenne" living in Jordbro
As a Swede I couldn't agree more. These nazigangs keep some streets clean from immegrant gangs.
Elu Barcino weep on cause you surely havn't been beaten up or robbed by gangs of criminal immegrants.We just want order on the street, nomater how it is done...
Puppeteer
I've never been "saved" by them. Although I know it happened to a friend of mine when a gang was harrasing him. They were following him around in a store and sprayed mustard on his jacket (to pick a fight I suppose), a few nazis in the same store (whatever you call them) saw it and scared the gang away. Funny story actually :original:Nazis are good in their ways, the new nazis(mostly youths) keep the streets clean on night for swedish ppl to walk around being not robbed by some turk
Get born again.
You friend was probably white, no? What nationality was the opposing gang? The deed was virtuous, but inspired by evil...
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yesYou friend was probably white, no?
well they're probably swedish citizens but they were turkish/middle eastern lookingWhat nationality was the opposing gang?
I'd rather have a turtle leading.
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We have one (Belgium); one rather large one ...
Luckily we keep a 'cordon sanitaire' round them, so they cannot be elected, not in the gouvernment.
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