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    im just thinkin that under certain conditions and if people obeyed the honor code feudalism could work what are your thouhts?

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    in some part of the world, there's still some kind of "feudalism", extended to a smaller scale, maybe it would be more appropriate to speak about "tribalistic" societies, but this word sounds too much ... negative

    And yeah it works

    Unfortunately, people tend to believe that their way of doing things is the best, and wanna submit it to others, without taking into account the fact that the cultures are different
    but that's another topic

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    Yes, I would love to be a slave. Where do I sign up?

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    well u wouldnt be a slave some would work the land while others makesure they stay safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Stuart View Post
    well u wouldnt be a slave some would work the land while others makesure they stay safe
    it would more be like: some would work the land to just survive while making sure that others stay fat and wealthy and can do what they want.

    so in a nutshell it be worse then a dictatorship

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    So modern feudalism would be corporations with armies? That could work and probably we'd have some breakthroughs in technology especially warfare.
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    No, Feudalism doesn't work in a time like today because it's no longer about just about owning plots of farmland to make money. Most farmers own their own land now a days, and it wouldn't work for corporate-owned farms, considering they have hundreds of employees working on it, there wouldn't be enough room for them all, and you can't trust them to look after it 24/7. And why would anybody agree to a life of Serfdom? You get your house rent free, but you don't get payed and your family will be reliant on the land for many generations.

    Also, now a days we have technology, we can do things quicker then we could in the Middle Ages. Even during the Industrial-Revolution, while nations without Serfs where advancing economically and technologically, countries in Easter Europe where still pretty backwards because many of them still used serfs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Stuart View Post
    im just thinkin that under certain conditions and if people obeyed the honor code feudalism could work what are your thouhts?
    I'm just curious, what would be your role in this neo-feudal society?
    Optio, Legio I Latina

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    what you mean by neo-feudal?

    and modern feudalism would be like an apartment complex

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    Couldn't Japan be said to have done some corporate feudalism thing, what with the keiretsu and life time employment and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Randarkmaan View Post
    Couldn't Japan be said to have done some corporate feudalism thing, what with the keiretsu and life time employment and such?
    I am sure the Japonese government is still there to defend the rights of the workers and regulate the activities of the companies that employ those workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Stuart View Post
    what you mean by neo-feudal?

    and modern feudalism would be like an apartment complex
    OK, feudalism. What would your role be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromovnik View Post
    OK, feudalism. What would your role be?
    Well since he doesnt know, I am going to claim the King/Emperor/whoever is at the top of the pile position.

    Nobody would willingly submit themselves to a life of serfdom these days unless they were a bit odd and i would only live with the feudal system if i was the guy at the top.


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    I don't think so Feudalism could work these days, at least not in industrialized nations. Feudalism totally dominated aristocratic economic system after decline of urban communities in post-Roman Europe and political fragmentation of Western Roman Empire. It was based on possession and distribution of land in order to substitute broken tax system.

    Under Roman Empire elites possessed huge estates ofc and society was rural in majority, but aristocratic political activity was concentrated entirely on emperor's court in urban Rome, Constantinople or other metropolitan center due to empire wide patronage system. Moreover, their lands were scattered.
    On the other hand, in the long Medieval period, elites gradually departed from urban centers, creating regional rural and to some degree closed polities with concentrated farmlands. It did not encouraged technological progress, because decline of city comes together with shortage of capital goods. In addition, it cut through trade routes as regional polities often bickered against each other. It killed urban specialization of production or large scale distribution of goods and resulted in sharp decline of standard of living.

    Example of economic transformation from Roman tax based, and partly urban system into Medieval Feudalism shows that Feudal system is not beneficial for most of ppl.
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    Default Re: could fudalism work?

    i uno

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    Default Re: could fudalism work?

    Feudalism works when the leader is strong... ie the King. If the King is weak then the lords will rebel or fight amongst themselves. IE: The Anarchy 1120-1150ish Britain.

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    Only if god wills it.
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    If I get to be the king.


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    King of the who?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Carl Edward View Post
    King of the who?
    King of the world, of course.
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