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    PBUH - means Peace Be Upon Him

    In Islam we don't belive Jesus(PBUH) was a God, we belive he was a Prophet, also Abraham(PBUH), and Muhammad(PBUH) the last Prophet. The books Torah, Bible, and the Quran, were sent by God, and these where the Prophets.

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    http://Islamtoday.com - this is a good Islamic site it tells u the Islamic laws.

    About the Prophets:

    PROPHET IBRAHIM (Abraham) -

    They said that when Tarikh was seventy five years old, he had Ibrahim, Nahor (Nohour) and Haran. Haran had a son named Lot. They also said that Ibrahim was the middle child and that Haran died in the lifetime of his father in the land where he was born, the land of the Chaldeans (Al Kaldanieen), also known as Babylonia. At that time some people worshipped idols of stone and wood; others worshipped the planets, stars, sun and moon; still others worshipped their kings and rulers.


    PROPHET ISA (JESUS) -

    In many verses of the Glorious Qur'an Allah the Exalted denied the claim of the Christians that He has a son. A delegation from Nagran came to the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). They began to talk about their claim about the Trinity, which is that Allah is three in one, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, with some disagreement among their sects. That is why Allah affirmed in many verses of the Qur'an that Isa is a slave of Allah, whom He molded in the womb of his mother like any other of His creatures, and that He created him without a father, as He created Adam without a father or a mother.


    PROPHET MUHAMMAD -

    Muhammad (pbuh) was born in Mecca ( Makkah), Arabia, on Monday, 12 Rabi' Al-Awal (2 August A.D. 570). His mother, Aminah, was the daughter of Wahb Ibn Abdu Manaf of the Zahrah family. His father, 'Abdullah, was the son of Abdul Muttalib. His genealogy has been traced to the noble house of Ishmael, the son of Prophet Abraham in about the fortieth descend. Muhammad's father died before his birth.
    Last edited by omar; June 09, 2009 at 11:42 PM.

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    What about buddha?

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    i really like this. i think it clarifys what Islam is so a few less nutcases will see it as a violent religion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudd The Crazy
    i really like this. i think it clarifys what Islam is so a few less nutcases will see it as a violent religion
    I fear this thread will only cause more nutcases to see it as a peaceful religion. Useful comment, wasn't it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon
    I fear this thread will only cause more nutcases to see it as a peaceful religion. Useful comment, wasn't it?

    Care to expound on that thought?

    Also, Louis Farrakhan overusing 19 isn't something to either validate or criticize the Koranic code. As the leader of the Nation of Islam, he isn't widely accepted as authority on contemporary Islam.

    Also, thank you for the welcome MasterAdnin, and walaikum salaam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon
    I fear this thread will only cause more nutcases to see it as a peaceful religion.
    Islam is a peaceful religion. Most people know that. Only nutcases see it as a violent religion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sher Khan
    Care to expound on that thought?
    No! For the love of God don't get him started! He always says the same things about Islam in every thread. He of course has a right to his own opinions, but his opinions are all pretty much anti-Islam. There is really no point in arguing with Ummon regarding this issue...trust me....check out this thread and see for yourself:

    http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...ws+damned+hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ummon
    I fear this thread will only cause more nutcases to see it as a peaceful religion. Useful comment, wasn't it?
    What religion is peaceful? Just because a few extremists act out of their stupidity doesn't mean the religion as a whole is evil.

    Plus lots of ancient texts, like the bible, have things such as mass murder by the followers going on in their texts? Are they evil too?


    I really wish people would stop making these openly offensive and attack remarks. IDK why this board considers calling people idiots, or whatever, flaming and not statements like this. Its really quite annoying.

    Also if your for or against islam your not a nutcase. If you kill for or against it THEN you are.
    Swear filters are for sites run by immature children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by over-man
    What about buddha?
    Muslims only believe in the Abrahamic prophets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honor&Glory
    Muslims only believe in the Abrahamic prophets.
    Why didn't the creators of islam decide to include buddha? It would have probably made conversion much easier...
    Anyway.... at least they got jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by over-man
    Why didn't the creators of islam decide to include buddha? It would have probably made conversion much easier...
    Anyway.... at least they got jesus.
    Because Buddha is not an Abrahamic Prophet :wink:. Jesus is an Abrahamic prophet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by over-man
    Why didn't the creators of islam decide to include buddha? It would have probably made conversion much easier...
    Anyway.... at least they got jesus.
    Over-man, you keep on asking over and over, lol. You said "Why didn't the creators of islam decide to include buddha?" well, first of all, Islam wasn't created by a person, it was sent by God to his messagers Prophet Abraham(PBUH), Prophet Jesus(PBUH), and than Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). So Islam was not created by a person like Siddhartha who created Buddha the religion. People need to think out of the box. There is only and only one God who is Allah. If u study the three religions ( Judaism, Christianity, and Islam ) you will find a lot familiarities between them. As you know Christians them self say that the Bible has been edited by people. Also in the Quran it is said that Quran is personally protected by Allah ( God ). And there is so much scientific stuff in the Quran. In Islam we are not even allowed to forcefully convert people, only teach them if they want to learn. I do not ask u to convert or anything but please just understand Islam.

    I hope you read this lol. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar
    If u study the three religions ( Judaism, Christianity, and Islam ) you will find a lot familiarities between them.
    Is that only a coincidence?
    Christianity was IMMENSELY popular when islam was introduced, you do not think it is strange at all that jesus played a role in your dogma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar
    Islam wasn't created by a person, it was sent by God to his messagers Prophet Abraham(PBUH), Prophet Jesus(PBUH), and than Prophet Muhammad(PBUH).
    Abraham, Jesus, and Muhammad were not people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omar
    In Islam we are not even allowed to forcefully convert people, only teach them if they want to learn. I do not ask u to convert or anything but please just understand Islam.
    And if we don't wish to convert, we are dhimmi, right? The poll tax, social inequalities, our evidence not allowed in the law courts, constantly regarded as inferior, and despised by all. We can't walk "on the good side" of the road, we can't display wealth ... you see where I'm going with this, don't you?

    And if we do not convert, and refuse to be dhimmi, then the Quran requires us to be killed, am I not correct in saying this?

    And believe me when I tell you that I, for one, refuse to be Muslim or dhimmi ...

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    Nice job Omar, me H&G and sephodrym have been trying to help Islam, and by the way, I am muslim and so is sephodrym, and welcome to the forums.

    MasterAdnin

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    Yes, Islam is greatly misunderstood these days.

    Off-topic remarks removed. -Ardeur
    Last edited by Ardeur; January 20, 2006 at 10:35 AM.

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    That is right, they believe Buddah was not sent by Allah.

    MasterAdnin

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    Last edited by Ardeur; January 20, 2006 at 10:36 AM.

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    Islam is not to blame, it is the people who abuse and pervert it that are guilty.

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    Last edited by Ardeur; January 20, 2006 at 10:37 AM.

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    I am a Christian and I respect Muslims, though I didn't always. What got me to respect Islam is when I met a Muslim, and I got to know more about the religion. Before you condemn a religion, actually meet a true member of that religion...
    “The nation that will insist upon drawing a broad line of demarcation between the fighting man and the thinking man is liable to find its fighting done by fools and its thinking by cowards.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farnan
    I am a Christian and I respect Muslims, though I didn't always. What got me to respect Islam is when I met a Muslim, and I got to know more about the religion. Before you condemn a religion, actually meet a true member of that religion...
    Was that person me? :laughing:

    But yea, I am going to do volenteer service at a church to familiarize myself with Christian beliefs and the people who follow it.

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