We help the communists

[vikingsiddhu]

WHAT: http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/...6735_db053.htm

SOLUTION: http://www.boston.com/business/techn...et_censorship/

Its sad, isn't it, the very moral threads that we hang on to. Leaders must learn that China needs
us more than we need them. Ban our companies from censoring(there is a freedom of speech), and if China censors the site, so be it.

It is our right to disobey deliberetly against an unjust law. MLK, Gandhi: they knew what they were doing.

I don't want to see a man jailed for 13 years because he translated a document having 'democracy'

China is getting stronger, and stronger. Break its communist hold now, buisness owns the power to. If they refuse to, congress has the power to ban the business in the USA. Anyone would rather do trade with the US than China


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[John I Tzimisces]

China, whether they know it are not, is under our control.
Something like half of their money is backed in american dollars.
They can't become more powerful than the US with that kind of status. As soon as they start to back money with something THEY control...then worry.

I doubt people would rather trade with us. Cheaper labor and fewer laws in China.

[Eschaton]

China, whether they know it are not, is under our control.
Something like half of their money is backed in american dollars.
They can't become more powerful than the US with that kind of status. As soon as they start to back money with something THEY control...then worry.

I doubt people would rather trade with us. Cheaper labor and fewer laws in China.

Allow me :
You're obviously not aware of this my friend, but China happens to control extremely vast amounts of US government bonds. Effectively, the US is extremely indebted to China, and it's growing worse each month. How the hell do you think the US finances the vast trade deficits incurred with China ? Moreover, the US ( and the Western world in general ) is already completely dependent upon China for a very large number of critical products, from semi-conductors to clothing.

So I would rather state that China has a hold over us. Not that that's such a bad thing mind you, unless you happen to be one of those paranoid China-haters who believe the Yellow Wave will destroy apple pie and such. The only countries who have a real, factual hold over China are its main raw resource providers, but that's the same for every single industrialized country on Earth.

[vikingsiddhu]

Will yahoo do buisness here or in China, if they were forced to pick only one?

[John I Tzimisces]

What kind of business are we talking? Thats important. If its labor intensive, you can be sure china.

[RZZZA]

*sigh* Chinas strict censorship is all a product of living under a communist influenced government. Granted, I dont believe all of China supports communism, infact I'd say a large proportion of chinese people are actually anti-communist, so I dunno how long this "U.S. vs China" thing is gonna last anymore if China is headed for another civil war, or at the least some kind of interal strife. All that would do is give America a chance to assert its dominance over communists yet again. I dont believe that China is as stable as the U.S., and I dont believe that that chinas population is as supportive of their government as the U.S.'s population is of theirs.

I think under any other president, diplomatic/political pressure from the U.S. would be enough to have China back down and bend to our will...but with Bush its up in the air, hes not exactly as diplomatically skilled as his father was, and frankly I doubt his ability to conduct succesful foreign policy. I agree that the U.S. should put more focus on China as it is a growing world power in its region, America cant afford to ignore or appease China. But I think the U.S. needs to make China into a friend rather than an enemy, of course, and its possible....like I said...for any other president and any other administration. China is Americas problem as well imo because America let China fall into Communist hands, and last I checked the U.S. was outwardly anti-communist. That may have changed recently though, I dunno, we're too preoccupied with blowjobs, gay marriage and "He tried to kill my daddy!" recently to effectively anticipate growing threats to our nation anymore.

[vikingsiddhu]

Lets say their "adwords", selling of domains. Anything not labor sensitive

[Gogoas]

Does that mean I help communism too? Not again! D'Oh!

[vikingsiddhu]

Yeah, indirectly, in some way most of us do help the spread of communism. IT's interesting that the morden day defenition of communism is "a totalistic goverment in which a group of people try to exert maximum control by engaging in opressive practices, under the banner of 'equality'
A little different from Marx huh?

[Farnan]

I believe we should find the Politburo Website and start sending thousands and thousands of E-Mails...

These E-Mails will be made up of the works of Thomas Paine, Rosseau, Jefferson, and many other pro-democracy groups.

[Sétanta]

I believe we should find the Politburo Website and start sending thousands and thousands of E-Mails...

These E-Mails will be made up of the works of Thomas Paine, Rosseau, Jefferson, and many other pro-democracy groups.

amen to say in the least

[vikingsiddhu]

It's sad us RTW-PEOPLE who are kinda evil "extermination", we detest public dissent.
However, china is not "practical" in its decisions(do its people really vote against communism). Lol, nice word choice.

[vikingsiddhu]

Well thats just "I don't think its a good idea" action, the best resolve would be "I think it opression is a bad idea. I know this is new for me. Lets create a law banning companies from participating in those regions." Boom, communits regime looses Google, Microsoft, name it.
They would be forced into complying to our rules. Business is power, and if used properly, it can have great impacts.

[Guderian]

When has the US risked it's interests just because of moral issues? Snap back into reality seriously...If the US is going to oppose China it is going to be due to economic issues steming from China's growth and/or to stop China from attacking US allies like Taiwan.

China is Americas problem as well imo because America let China fall into Communist hands, and last I checked the U.S. was outwardly anti-communist. That may have changed recently though, I dunno, we're too preoccupied with blowjobs, gay marriage and "He killed my daddy!" recently to effectively anticipate growing threats to our nation anymore.

There is very little chance of China becoming communist, and China is not communist anymore, any pretense of being communist that they used to have has dissapeared all toghther revealing the Chinese government for what they truly are...a government full of self serving eltists.

Lets create a law banning companies from participating in those regions." Boom, communits regime looses Google, Microsoft, name it.
They would be forced into complying to our rules. Business is power, and if used properly, it can have great impacts.

Americans just cannot help themselves from using communist like it is a dirty word can they? How in the world can you call a government who actually cares about losing business from Microsoft communist?

And do you really think the US senate has the power to stop those companies from trading in Asia?

[Farnan]

I know, but there is little ability for average citizen to do to try to convince bussinesses not to cooperate with China.

[vikingsiddhu]

i see...there was little abilty for the thousands of discriminated people in America to speak against...alas what can the Indian farmer do against the British Empire.
~kind of vauge, but i think you get the point. People always have power, sometimes people underestimate it.

[Farnan]

Yes, but there are sadly few Ghandis in this world, and many Joe Nobodies...

[sephodwyrm]

China is not even communist now, idiots. Its practicing practical politics and not ideological :wub:.

And people would do trade with the US if the US can produce more cheaply. There's a method to do that, and that entails paying you guys less so the big companies earn more. Heck, my wages hadn't been adjusted with the inflation. I should go on strike.

[vikingsiddhu]

Idiot means a person with a mental capicity of two years old or less.
Thanks for that. China is official communist, though really totalitian.
There is no republic.
Get your facts straigth, or ask those people jailed for a word called democracy.

[Farnan]

Just make sure the works are in mainland Chinese, that way when the person whose job it is to check the E-Mails can read them...