"Custom Settlement: modells and objects" - collection point

[MasterBigAb]

Hi to all fans

Dazo had a very good idea:

- And you made me think of something: perhaps create a thread for people wanting to submit a model (building, object or wathever) for custom settlements so KK won't have his PM box flooded if everyone goes berserk on milkshape . He can just take a look and ask for what he's interested in if anything.

So this thread is for everyone of our dear fans out there, who made a few buildings or other models that could be used as houses or decoration for future custom settlements. You can post everything you have done here (by posting you do already agree/suggest on including it to the main mod) that would have two big advantages:
First the advantage for KK, lesser work, more different resources, more time for other focus on the settlement, more detail may be even, and lesser boring (if you have to model 100 houses for example)
The advantage for you would be of course to may be see your work implented, and to give KK more time and even speed up progress on the development of patches.

So come on, start to show (with picture - best would be textured objects of course) what you got and made and want to share - you can also comment on the pictures, but pls without to much unneccessary comments/spam and to make it easier for KK to filter the stuff i could also collect all the stuff submitted to the first post once the list became hopefully longer

Let's start you skilled people out there - let's help KK realizing OUR dream !!!

EDIT:
An importnat technical note:

It's a great idea to collect models together for sharing...
Hopefully others may do that for other eras and subjects at some point.


I'd just like to point out that the main issue with getting models to work in game is sorting out the texturing...
TO WORK IN GAME!
It's quite easy to make a nice looking model in ms3d - but pretty useless if it won't translate into the game.

The issue is that milkshape allows faces (triangles) to be independently mapped to different bits of texture without duplicating the vertexes at the edges of those triangles. MT2W doesn't accept that, so if you have two faces that share a vertex and you try and map those faces to different points on the texture, whilst it looks fine in milkshape, what you end up with after putting it in game is a mangled mess where it tries to average the texture coordinate points.

To get split mapping of textures to work you have to force milkshape to duplicate the vertexes you don't want to be shared. That can either be done by using the 'regroup' function so the bits you want mapped independently are split off into separate group, or by selecting the relevant faces, duplicating to separate group and then deleting the original faces.

Getting all that to work properly takes a lot more time than making pretty looking structures in ms3d... In short I'd recommend not posting any building files unless you've checked they load and display OK as added structure via IWTE tool.

Is Milkshape the only program you can use for this or can also other modelling programs be used (Blender, gmax ... )?

Is it alright if I submit my contributions in .wings format, because I use Wing 3D software, or would I need to convert it? What I've done is nothing special but maybe KK could use it or adapt it or something.

You need to convert it to .obj or .ms3d.

I am not familiar at all with Wing 3d, but most software can convert to .obj, which can be opened in Milkshape and lots of other software, and also used in the game.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=299867 is about texturing cities

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=143321 is a brandnew or updated texture tool

Work done so far

Raradir:

Golden Hall

Rohan Beacon

Dazo:

Dwarvesn statues

Elven models

Prah:

Osgiliath big model

WelshManDan:

Black Gate

Warkeeper:

Prancing Pony shield

reeke:

Ruins

Diglytron:

Osgiliath Building

Rohan building

[Soul Reapir]

Cool thread. Can't wait to see some work.

[Agamaran]

To avoid perhaps the question that will most likely be asked the most, perhaps provide some links as to how to get started on doing such things in the original post?

[MasterBigAb]

To avoid perhaps the question that will most likely be asked the most, perhaps provide some links as to how to get started on doing such things in the original post?

Milkshake ?!
There are a lot of tutorials out there, this thread is not for teaching people how to model, i myslef could not really create anything - this is about peoole who did something and want to show and contribute it.

So if you lek the idea and want to give it a try then take some days with lot of patience and time and take a close look at milkshake or other modding programes

[Agamaran]

Milkshake ?!
There are a lot of tutorials out there, this thread is not for teaching people how to model, i myslef could not really create anything - this is about peoole who did something and want to show and contribute it.

So if you lek the idea and want to give it a try then take some days with lot of patience and time and take a close look at milkshake or other modding programes

Oh no, I know that. I'm just saying the first thing fans will probably say is, "Cool so how i do dis lol." To avoid that I was just suggesting to throw up a link or something.

[lordcooper]

What formats can the models be in?

I'm somewhat experienced with Blender and could probably knock up some stuff if I can export them into a suitable format.

EDIT: And are models preferred with quad or tri faces?

[MasterBigAb]

Oh no, I know that. I'm just saying the first thing fans will probably say is, "Cool so how i do dis lol." To avoid that I was just suggesting to throw up a link or something.

ok will think about it.thx

What formats can the models be in?

I'm somewhat experienced with Blender and could probably knock up some stuff if I can export them into a suitable format.

EDIT: And are models preferred with quad or tri faces?

Will anwser you when i know that ^^

[Moonflower]

Milkshake ?!

silly MasterBigAb

[MasterBigAb]

silly MasterBigAb

bsssst - yes apollogizzzeesss, i do only know much about milkshakes (it's a typo, sry even if you don't believe me )

@Calis: Sweet looks great with such a texture

[Darth Ravenous]

Yes the red will go nice with the orc bloord, and if we could only get the elves in on our decorative arts.

[maxi90]

funny... i had originally concived it as a dwarven town hall

[Darth Ravenous]

Hmmmmm well it's kinda small for dwarfs.

[Lemoniser]

Hmmmmm well it's kinda small for dwarfs.

Small for dwarfs? But they're dwarfs (or is it dwarves in the Tolkien universe? I dunno)

[Legolose]

Love it, cant wait to see some of the work

[Red_Devil]

yep i'm motivated i will post one of my recent "creations" just as a proposal this evening. since i'm pretty new to milkshape, I didn't do anything complicated but i'm starting to get it.
and i'm also ready to invest some free time in the IWTE but damn it's hard to understand how it works.

[Ozzmosis]

It would be awesome if we had a lower poly count in TATW's new settlements, I guess that would stop the lag in sieges when I look at the cities. It would be a whole new lease of life for players with lower end machines.
Lower polys for buildings would mean less lag, right?

[MasterBigAb]

I agree it looks good already and doesn't need changes

[Calis]

Good idea...

...I havn´t modeled and work with 3Dsoftware for some years but maybe I can help with textures. If I get the mesures...
Maybe it´s possible. I worked in the past in a game development studio....times of low poly and little textures...

But I doesn´t made something for M2TW jet.

I enjoyed this mod very much and maybe I can give a little bit back...

PS: I used the Dwarven Statue for a little test. I hope it´s ok.

[Dazo]

@ Ozzmosis: KK said the building he made had less damage block/levels so common buildings should have less poly, I guess.

@ paradamed & MBA: thanks, actually the reworking is about merging groups, hunting unneeded polygons (2131 atm) and trying some weapon/tool combinations (mace, spear, various axes, mattock...) with slightly different details (helmet/clothes) ^^ .

@ Calis: of course it's ok nice rock texture, it give the "old" feeling.

Model stats:

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[Mathieu Of Belgium]

I have a question, now I know that you can make your own buildings in MTW2 will it also be possible to make some of them grassionable?
Before you start saying 'impossible through the game engine or something like that' you should have a loot at "Dominiom of the Sword" (MTW2, it stand in their goals to make buildings grassionable) and Napoleontic Wars (? RTW, where they made some grassionable buildings)