faction_standings problem

[Kolwen]

I want to make all factions with good relationships, but not byzantium (they are the bad guys). It works only for some factions and I don't know why.
IE: hungary have "perfect" relation with france, scotland, england, milan and hre, but only acceptable with byzantium, denmark, moors and egypt. What is wrong in my code?


descr_strat.txt ->

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faction_standings england, 0.9 france, scotland, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings england, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings scotland, 0.9 france, england, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings scotland, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings france, 0.9 scotland, england, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings france, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings milan, 0.9 france, scotland, england, hre, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings milan, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings hre, 0.9 france, scotland, england, milan, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings hre, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings hungary, 0.9 france, scotland, england, milan, hre, denmark, moors, egypt
faction_standings hungary, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings denmark, 0.9 france, scotland, england, milan, hre, hungary, moors, egypt
faction_standings denmark, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings moors, 0.9 france, scotland, england, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, egypt
faction_standings moors, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings egypt, 0.9 france, scotland, england, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, moors
faction_standings egypt, -1.0 byzantium
faction_standings byzantium, -1.0 france, scotland, england, milan, hre, hungary, denmark, moors, egypt

[Ishan]

It's done both ways i think:-

faction_standings england, 1.0 france
faction_standings france, 1.0 england

[Kolwen]

This is from vanilla M2TW Kingdoms descr_strat.txt file:
In some cases (IE: milan-venice) it is not the same in both ways :\

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faction_standings england, -0.2 france, scotland
faction_standings england, -1.0 slave
faction_standings scotland, -0.2 england
faction_standings scotland, 0.2 france
faction_standings scotland, -1.0 slave
faction_standings france, -0.2 england
faction_standings france, 0.2 scotland
faction_standings france, -1.0 slave
faction_standings venice, -0.2 byzantium
faction_standings venice, -0.45 milan, hre
faction_standings venice, -1.0 slave
faction_standings milan, -0.4 venice, hre
faction_standings milan, -1.0 slave
faction_standings hre, -0.2 poland
faction_standings hre, -0.45 venice, milan
faction_standings hre, -1.0 slave
faction_standings poland, -0.2 russia, hre
faction_standings poland, 0.2 hungary
faction_standings poland, -1.0 slave
faction_standings hungary, -0.2 byzantium
faction_standings hungary, 0.2 poland
faction_standings hungary, -1.0 slave
faction_standings spain, 0.2 portugal
faction_standings spain, -0.85 moors
faction_standings spain, -1.0 slave
faction_standings sicily, -0.2 moors
faction_standings sicily, -0.45 byzantium
faction_standings sicily, -1.0 slave
faction_standings denmark, -1.0 slave
faction_standings portugal, 0.2 spain
faction_standings portugal, -0.85 moors
faction_standings portugal, -1.0 slave
faction_standings papal_states, -0.45 hre
faction_standings papal_states, 0.2 england, portugal, poland, hungary
faction_standings papal_states, -1.0 slave
faction_standings moors, -0.2 sicily
faction_standings moors, -0.85 spain, portugal
faction_standings moors, -1.0 slave
faction_standings byzantium, -0.2 hungary, venice
faction_standings byzantium, -0.45 sicily
faction_standings byzantium, -0.85 turks
faction_standings byzantium, -1.0 slave
faction_standings turks, -0.65 egypt
faction_standings turks, -0.8 byzantium
faction_standings egypt, -0.6 turks
faction_standings egypt, -0.6 slave

[Eothese]

Thats probably a typo on behalf of the vanilla coder. I think the number of factions you can have on one line has a limit, try a new line for every faction relationship and it will probably work.

[Kolwen]

I tried it and the result is the same.
What I want to do is avoid wars between factions of the same religion by improving their relations (byzantium is the only one with different religion)
I also want to improve the relations with the pope (egypt) to avoid excomulgation.
Is there anything better that could I do?

[Eothese]

You could edit the file known as descr_faction_standing.txt

[Kolwen]

How can make factions with same religion increasing their relationships each turn? And decreasing their relations if they have different religion?
My skills at scripting are really bad
I have been lurking around the forum but I can't find anyhing like that.

PS: Maybe something like this?

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Trigger 0048_P_Assassin_Caught_Attacking_Pope
WhenToTest AssassinCaughtAttackingPope

FactionStanding factions { egypt } -1.0

; Make the papal states dislike other religions

Can I add more factions in addition to egypt? Separated by "," or different lines?

PS2: I found this error in the log:

17:27:17.671 [script.err] [error] Script Error in mods/The_Sundering/data/world/maps/campaign/imperial_campaign/descr_strat.txt, at line 769, column 49
problem with faction_standings, probably an incorrect faction string

Any idea about what is this?

[Eothese]

The error all depends on what's at line 769 in descr_strat...

I've pulled this from my Akthross mod

;------------------------------------------
Trigger 0158_Normalise_Cultist_catholic
    WhenToTest FactionTurnStart
    Condition FactionReligion heretic
    FactionStanding exclude_factions { } -1.0
;------------------------------------------

If you wanted the relations to improve instead of get worse, you'd make the nagative a positive. All it takes is a bit of study and you'll get the idea.

[Kolwen]

Thank you!
Just one more thing...
Anyone knows how to avoid the wars between factions of the same religion? Improving their relationships is not enough

[Ishan]

Thank you!
Just one more thing...
Anyone knows how to avoid the wars between factions of the same religion? Improving their relationships is not enough

For that you have to design separate ai labels for them which are used in the descr_campaign_ai_db.xml file which is something typical.

[Kolwen]

How should it looks like? I have not much idea about modifying that file

PS: Do you know if this could work?
Theorically this avoid war if you have good faction standings.
I've also improved the faction standings if you have the same religion

        <decision_entry>
        <!--
        IF GOOD STANDINGS, REDUCE INVADE PRIORITY
        -->
        <min_entry faction_standing="0.1"/>
        <max_entry faction_standing="1.0"/>
        <faction_attitude invade_priority="-250" continue="true"/>
        </decision_entry>

[Eothese]

That looks like it would work, you could break it down more 0.1-0.5 -250 0.6-1.0 -500
But be aware that all the other factors in the label mean that they could and most likely would still go to war. You have to really go to town on the label to get anywhere.

[Kolwen]

does it work too if I apply this decision_entry to slave faction instead of those faction standings?

[Bela]

Or you can add a short script into campaign_script for the factions you want. If they declare war on each other, you can quickly change their relations back to peace or even to allied.