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    It’s evident how deeply political correctness has penetrated into every aspect of Western Culture. Even more interesting are its origins which can be traced back to the Frankfurt school, a group of Marxist scholars and thinkers, which wanted to find a substitute for the “revolutionary class", which they found in supposedly subdued fringe groups like women, homosexuals, foreigners/immigrants, minorities etc.
    Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not just to the 1960s, the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious.

    Parallels between economic Marxism and Cultural Marxism/Political Correctness

    Marxism says that all of history is determined by ownership of means of production. Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, says that all history is determined by power, by which groups defined in terms of race, sex, etc., have power over which other groups. Nothing else matters.
    Just as in classical economic Marxism certain groups, i.e. workers and peasants, are a priori good, and other groups, i.e., the bourgeoisie and capital owners, are evil. In the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness certain groups are good – feminist women, (only feminist women, non-feminist women are deemed not to exist or to be a negative example of backwardness) blacks, Hispanics, immigrants, homosexuals. These groups are determined to be “victims,” and therefore automatically good regardless of what any of them do. Similarly, white males are determined automatically to be evil, thereby becoming the equivalent of the of the bourgeoisie in economic Marxism
    Both economic and cultural Marxism rely on expropriation. When the classical Marxists, the communists, took over a country like Russia, they expropriated the bourgeoisie, they took away their property and redistributed it to the revolutionary class. Churchill called that “the even distribution of misery”. Cultural Marxism also relies on expropriation by the so called “positive discrimination” or affirmative action, where male whites are intentionally disadvantaged. F.e. not the one with the best qualifications gets the job, but the one belonging to a supposedly subdued minority. Same absurd “positive discrimination” happens during public tenders so that not the enterprise with the best offer gets the contract, but the one which is owned by a member of a certain “victim group”. That’s nothing but discrimination and in the end expropriation.
    Finally, both have a method of analysis that automatically gives the answers they want. For the classical Marxist, it’s Marxist economics. For the cultural Marxist, it’s deconstruction

    The Historic background of Political correctness is Marxism


    The fact of the matter is that Political Correctness has a history, a history that is much longer than many people are aware of outside a small group of academics who have studied this.
    History shows us that shortly after the first practical attempts to implement Marxist economic socialism it became clear that the theories of Marx failed, because the working class as the motor of socialist revolution wasn’t revolutionary.

    Marxist theory said that when a general European war came (as it did come in Europe in 1914), the working class throughout Europe would rise up and overthrow their bourgeois governments, because the workers had more in common with each other across the national boundaries than they had in common with the bourgeoisie and the ruling class in their own country.

    But throughout Europe, workers were patriotic, rallied to their flag and happily marched off to fight each other. Obviously nationalism was more attractive to the people than socialism.
    The Kaiser shook hands with the leaders of the Marxist Social Democratic Party in Germany and said there are no parties now, there are only Germans. And this happened in every country in Europe. So something was wrong.

    Marxists of course didn't question their crude theory.
    In 1917, they finally got a Marxist coup in Russia and it looked like the theory was working, but it stalled again. It didn’t spread and when attempts were made to spread immediately after the war, with the Spartacist uprising in Berlin, with the Bela Kun government in Hungary, with the Munich Soviet, the workers didn’t support them.
    So the Marxists’ had a problem. And two Marxist theorists went to work on it: Antonio Gramsci in Italy and Georg Lukacs in Hungary. Gramsci said the workers will never see their true class interests, as defined by Marxism, until they are freed from Western culture, and particularly from the Christian religion – that they are blinded by culture and religion to their true class interests. Lukacs, who was considered the most brilliant Marxist theorist since Marx himself, said in 1919, “Who will save us from Western Civilization?” He also theorized that the great obstacle to the creation of a Marxist paradise was the culture: Western civilization itself.
    In order to achieve any notable revolution it was necessary that that revolution should focus not only on the economic order, but also, and firstly, on the cultural. This is the root of cultural Marxism which became political correctness.
    In 1923 in Germany, a think-tank was established, the Institute for Marxism that took on the role of translating Marxism from economic into cultural terms, that created Political Correctness as we know it today. But the people behind it decided at the beginning that it was not to their advantage to be openly identified as Marxist. The last thing Political Correctness wants is for people to figure out it’s a form of Marxism. So instead they decide to name it the Institut für Sozialforschung (Institute for Social Research).

    Wilhelm Reich, one of the early members of the Frankfurt school, wrote a book entitled The Authoritarian Personality, which makes the claim, according to Raymond Raehn, “that the presence in a society of Christianity, capitalism, and the patriarchal-authoritarian family created a character prone to racial prejudice and German fascism”—that is, everything Western is necessarily prejudiced. The solution according to the Frankfurt academics was that “the patriarchal social structure would be replaced with matriarchy; the belief that men and women are different and properly have different roles would be replaced with androgyny; and the belief that heterosexuality is normal would be replaced with the belief that homosexuality is ‘normal’.

    In the late 60ies during the student protests these ideas of cultural Marxism were revisited and transported into mainstream society via the “Marsch durch die Institutionen” (march through the institutions), a slogan which was used by SDS activists in order to articulate their goal to change society radically.


    Supporters and proponents of Cultural Marxism/ Political Correctness

    The biggest supporters of political correctness are of course socialists and do-gooders.
    Partially the support can be explained by the lust for power among political strongmen and numinous redeemers who understand that socialism enables them to consolidate the power they crave in their own hands. But it also requires the backing of intellectuals and academics who naively believe that socialism opens the way to a juster and more equable society. History teaches that such a chimera is catastrophic in the application. It is generally embraced as an ideal by an intellectual class isolated from the lives of ordinary people and therefore immune or indifferent to reality.

    Instead of allowing their ideas to emerge from the people, “intellectuals reverse the process, deducing their ideas first from principle and then seeking to impose them on living men and women.” Insulated in their cerebral bunkers, they are “library socialists” in love with an idea, who regard human beings, whom they profess to cherish, as obstructions to the unfolding of their master plan.

    Most of these theoretical prodigies, live in the gated communities of the left and have little knowledge of the actual conditions under which people struggle, legislating down to the masses from their positions of authority and ostensible moral elevation.

    They are the bearers of a totalitarian mindset, consisting of three characteristics: a voluntary ignorance of the facts; an ability to live with contradictions that refute its own principles; and a refusal to analyze the causes of failure. They are the intellectual and political leaders of the Utopian army that is once again sweeping across the globe, organized as modern day versions of the medieval guilds intent on exercising power while defending their prerogatives.

    They view themselves as progressivists who have humanity’s best interests at heart. But as the effects of their incessant tampering in social and political affairs reveal, they are really irresponsible parasites devouring the body politic.

    Fanaticism is the oxygen that our public intellectuals, left-wing academics and political elites breathe. These social revisionists wish to create a regulatory socialist state.
    They will write books, teach classes and pass laws accountable to none but themselves, secure in their self-election as far-sighted legislators and their assumption of a rarefied wisdom inaccessible to the common ruck of mankind. They are very dangerous people who will not rest until they have made a shambles of the world we would have preferred to live in. They are, quite simply, the bane of our existence.

    Methods and Goals of Cultural Marxism/Political Correctness

    A strangle-hold on popular media and the universities and what they are allowed to say and teach is a key element of the long-term goals of Cultural Marxists / Politcal Correctness proponents. They permit no opposition to their supposedly enlightened diktats.

    The immediate goal is to destroy all barriers to the introduction of more women and minorities throughout the power structure, which will deprive the power of the traditional elite. These methods of so doing include laws and lawsuits, intimidation, and demonizing of white males as racists and sexists.

    A graphic illustration of such demagogic tendencies, much in the news these days, comes from the European Union and its unelected, de facto politburo, whose “Council Framework Decision on Combating Racism and Xenophobia” of November 28, 2008 and recently passed into law allows for the extradition from one country to another of anyone deemed to have offended its prescriptions. It has also mandated a “European Gendarmerie Force” to carry out its decisions.

    The idea behind, is the complete eradication of Western civilization to be replaced with something new. That something new is nothing less than “a society of radical egalitarianism enforced by the power of the state.

    One of the methods to achieve the destruction of the traditional western culture is deconstruction and Critical Theory. The latter calls for the most destructive criticism possible, in every possible way, designed to bring the current order down.
    Deconstruction essentially takes any text or something like f.e. culture, identity or sexuality and removes or at least undermines all original meaning from it and re-inserts any meaning desired. Gender madness, Feminist-, Queer and Cultural Theories heavily rely on Deconstruction.
    We see this even on this board like leftists usually deny the fact, that all Europeans have something in common culturally, which is based on Christianity or at least a society which is informed by Christianity and Enlightment, common history and more or less close historic links to each other.
    Left wing board members also tend to deny that there is a unique national identity. It is already deconstruction in order to undermine a feeling of cohesion and unity which would exclude other groups and threaten the also destructive multiculturalist agenda, which is a tool to undermine the traditional western nation state, since it promotes diversity not unity, fractioned parallel societies and not homogenous nation states.
    Multiculturalism requires “intercultural education”, political correctness and illiberal laws to enforce it, otherwise it wouldn’t work at all, which demonstrates how unnatural this agenda is.


    Some material was taken from these sites:
    http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/
    http://frontpagemag.com/2010/12/28/the-new-totalitarians/

    I didn’t use quote tags within the text for better readability and I’ve changed, mixed, added, rearranged and rephrased a lot, but I give credit to the original texts and authors hereby. I also created something new, something like a collage of both texts, which suit my own argumentation and the one of the original authors, so this is clearly no Plagiarism, despite missing quote tags.


    some youtube videos making the same points








    What are your thoughts about the fact that our western societies all have implemented the marxist concept of political correctness as state doctrine?
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    The OP has been reworked. The responses have been soft deleted for the interest of continuity. The thread is now reopened for discussion.

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    Could you summarize this? Frankly, this post is too long to do anything but skim it.

    Anyways, I saw nothing stating an argument of how Political Correctness was caused by Marxists, what you perceive it as, or why it is a bad thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Could you summarize this? Frankly, this post is too long to do anything but skim it.

    Anyways, I saw nothing stating an argument of how Political Correctness was caused by Marxists, what you perceive it as, or why it is a bad thing.

    No, I won't summarize it, and if it is a too long read for you it is just bad luck.

    You're a commie as you claim in your sig, was Marx's "Das Kapital" also too long for you?

    I guess you even didn't read it, well, I did and I'm anti-communist.

    That you "saw nothing" because you were too lazy to read properly is not my problem.

    It is common sense to read the op before discussing. You don't have to discuss here if this is too much effort for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    No, I won't summarize it, and if it is a too long read for you it is just bad luck.
    Not a very friendly person, are you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    You're a commie as you claim in your sig
    I am? I do?

    Last time I checked I was a Socialist, and I can't recall ever making that claim

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    was Marx's "Das Kapital" also too long for you?
    Ad Hominem Fallacy

    But no, it wasn't. And even if it was, I can't see what it has to contribute to your argument.

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    I guess you even didn't read it, well, I did and I'm anti-communist.
    Good for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    That you "saw nothing" because you were too lazy to read properly is not my problem.
    Oh, I saw plenty. The first sentence of each section accuses Marxists of something which is not explained to be a bad thing, and the following sentences of each section go on a scarcely related tangent

    Quote Originally Posted by Von Stein View Post
    It is common sense to read the op before discussing. You don't have to discuss here if this is too much effort for you.
    It is common sense to attempt to convince others of your stance. That is the purpose of an argument. I must thus consider you are attempting to appear intelligent, to which I must say this has the opposite effect. If you wish to appear intelligent, write something of your own. Quoting poorly written writings of others have the opposite effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Not a very friendly person, are you?
    I won’t do anything which doesn’t seem to be beneficial for me anyhow. Why should I summarize the op, just because you’re too lazy to read? I would be pretty stupid to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    I am? I do?

    Last time I checked I was a Socialist, and I can't recall ever making that claim
    Then I wonder why you wear the “Communists of TWC” banner in your sig and then there’s also the link to your “treatise of communism” thread and far left political profile. 1+1 = 2 not 3, otherwise I really don’t give a damn for what you call yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Ad Hominem Fallacy

    But no, it wasn't. And even if it was, I can't see what it has to contribute to your argument.
    Where was your argument in the first place? There didn’t come anything meaningful from you in the first place and “hey this is too long and I didn’t see anything” doesn’t count as pithy, don’t you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Good for you.
    Indeed, because that means I know more about the ideology of my commie opponents than most of them do themselves. "Know your enemy" has always been a good advice.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    Oh, I saw plenty. The first sentence of each section accuses Marxists of something which is not explained to be a bad thing, and the following sentences of each section go on a scarcely related tangent
    So plenty that you asked me to summarize it for you in the first place, huh?
    Political correctness is an off-spring to Marxism, it is a tool to overthrow the existing order.
    Of course as a young, naïve Marxist yourself, you absolutely support "fancy revolution”, but you neither are aware of the terrible body count the socialist utopia has created in history so far nor do you care about the fact that today’s pc politics and the ruthless enforcement directly lead into authoritarianism, new Gulags and eventually to mass murder.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    It is common sense to attempt to convince others of your stance. That is the purpose of an argument.
    No it is not, at least this thread only seems to attract far leftists so far and I really don't have the intention to convince you. I think time and therefore wisdom of age will do that for me, which is far more effective anyway and if not I have no problems at all with inveterate fools. I smile upon them, just like the sun.

    Quote Originally Posted by nicoisbest View Post
    I must thus consider you are attempting to appear intelligent, to which I must say this has the opposite effect. If you wish to appear intelligent, write something of your own. Quoting poorly written writings of others have the opposite effect.
    I don't try anything, it is just your own perception, which makes me appear intelligent. In the end you just poorly made the ad-hominem attack you accused me earlier falsely.
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    If people are too lazy to respond to posts made in argument without resorting to ad hominems I see no reason to allows this to continue. Reopened it was and reclosed it is.

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    Since this topic was closed while I was replying to the user "rolling thunder" I might add my reply which was almost finshed then, now. I didn't change anything. I just post it as retributive justice since his post appeared here while I wasn't able to defend myself or to reply.

    Here is rolling thunder's original and full post:

    Okay, first thing's first.

    1. 3 youtube videos? Seriously. Youtube videos do not constitue a reasonable argument. Youtube videos do not constitue an argument at all. Is it too hard to produce a coherent, written argument that I can skim over, rather than stupidly expecting me to waste 15-30 minutes of useful time in watching what is, most likely, the inane dribblings of some lightweight nobodies.

    2. When you do present an argument, you're only source is a poorly-considered argument - if it can be called an argument at all and not just inane rabblerousing - on an what I can tell by brief perusal is a stupifyingly biased website.

    "For the first time in our history, Americans have to be fearful of what they say, of what they write, and of what they think. They have to be afraid of using the wrong word, a word denounced as offensive or insensitive, or racist, sexist, or homophobic."

    I mean, look at this laughable piece of tripe. Has anybody shut down the Klan? No. Are gay people even allowed to marry? No. Has Fox News been incinerated by airdropped incendiaries? Have racist, sexist, homophobic remarks been outlawed? No. This is tripe,
    [IMG]file:///C:/DOKUME%7E1/Steierer/LOKALE%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG], crap, baloney, rotgut, sneering rubbish smeared across a facade at a pretense of political discussion - which it isn't. It's scaremongering crap.

    "The totalitarian nature of Political Correctness is revealed nowhere more clearly than on college campuses, many of which at this point are small ivy covered North Koreas,"

    Seriously?

    I mean, for the love of god, seriously? Colleges, the bastion of intellectual liberty, free speech, blah, blah, blah, defenders of personal freedom....compared to North Korea? I fail to recall any mention of the numerous executions on American campuses. I fail to recall any particular discussion of anyone, at all, being removed from a course because of their personal beliefs, save one case where a woman was refused graduation because she was blithely homophobic and yet wanted to be a counsellor. Some people really need to learn the difference between "people who disagree with you" and "marxists".

    I really can't begin to force myself to dissect the rest of this pitiful argument.
    First of all, there are good arguments and FACTS used in that video.
    Secondly it isn’t a random Youtube flick, but was produced as documentary which just was also uploaded at Youtube just as many other things and would be also aired by f.e.the BBC, if they weren’t so much left leaning despite being publicly funded.
    At the same time left leaning public media has no problems airing documentations about so called "man made climate change", which were produced by thirds and have a very very thin scientific basis.

    Stupidly […] the inane dribblings of some lightweight nobodies. […] inane rabblerousing […]laughable piece of tripe […]This is tripe, , crap, baloney, rotgut, sneering rubbish
    You’re one angry leftist and your niveau speaks for itself, after all slurs are no arguments. Please don’t tell me something about proper discussion and argumentation, because your own posting style is exactly the “inane dribbling” you talk about all the time.


    stupifyingly biased
    Name me something which is not biased, silly? Everything is biased, except for maybe mathematics.

    Have racist, sexist, homophobic remarks been outlawed? No.
    I see you’re not informed. The recent so called European “anti-discrimination laws” have gone very far.

    http://europa.eu/legislation_summari.../l33178_en.htm

    Quoted fromt he link above:
    Certain forms of conduct as outlined below, which are committed for a racist or xenophobic purpose, are punishable as criminal offences:
    - public dissemination or distribution of tracts, pictures or other material containing expressions of racism and xenophobia;

    In all cases, racist or xenophobic motivation is considered to be an aggravating circumstance
    So Xenophobia is a crime already in the EUDSSR and articulating something which some leftists may consider as “xenophobic” can lead to a lawsuit.

    In the US they even try to ban Huckleberry Finn from schools because of the N-word and since it’s an affront against political correct dogma, allthough the author was against racism.


    I could use examples endlessly which show how far political correctness has gone and that we already have an authoritarian thought police.

    A few examples of those anti-discrimination laws in action:

    Thus halcyon Denmark’s article 266b of its penal code allows for the incrimination of outspoken citizens like MP Jesper Langballe for vigorously protesting Muslim honor killings and family rapes. As journalist Lars Hedegaard comments, “Under Danish jurisprudence it is immaterial whether a statement is true or untrue. All that is needed for a conviction is that somebody feels offended.” (Hedegaard as well is facing criminal prosecution for his remarks on honor killings.) Speaking truth must be censured in the faux Utopia in which giving offense is a cardinal sin. Canada, too, which seems to many a happy, analgesic country, has its Human Rights Commissions in which hearsay is admitted as evidence against anyone indicted under the nebulous rubric of “hate speech”—which in practice often means holding an honest discussion about worrisome social and political trends. The defendant, who is presumed guilty and must somehow prove his innocence, is severely restricted in summoning witnesses—as in pacific Holland, a fact to which Geert Wilders can attest—or in tabling supporting documentation. He must also defray his own legal expenses while the plaintiff—generally an offended imam or Muslim organization—is funded by the State (i.e., the taxpayer).
    In such socially advanced societies, hell bent on an asymptotic quest for a Utopian terminus, the unvarnished truth must be silenced, no less than it is in the most ruthless and primitive backwaters—the modern version of the medieval torture of cutting out one’s tongue. According to Elizabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff, the daughter of an Austrian diplomat who spent her formative years in Iran and is currently being prosecuted for “prejudicial incitement” against Islam by the Austrian government, people “are being systematically silenced.” Similarly, Austrian retiree “Helmut G” was recently arraigned and fined for merrily yodelling during a Muslim prayer session at a neigboring house, since his yodelling sounded like the call of the muezzin and disturbed the congregants. Singing must also be silenced.
    source: http://frontpagemag.com/2010/12/28/t...talitarians/2/

    Colleges, the bastion of intellectual liberty, free speech, blah, blah, blah, defenders of personal freedom...
    What? Obviously you’ve never seen a college or university from inside as student or you're so much left wing indoctrinated that you don't realise anything.

    Currently I’m doing my master degree and I can tell you that around 70% of my professors are left leaning or even left wing extremist and try to manipulate their students. Attacking or even questioning openly leftist ideals and the status quo most often will lead to bad grades.
    Most fellow students are already brainwashed from college and even before from high school on, hell in reality indoctrination already begins in kindergarten, so it hardly happens, that people question the subject matter their professors teach.
    Strange enough that leftist academics, which are usually pretty big fans of the method of deconstruction when it comes to culture, history, heritage, religion and so on, will become very upset if you use their own method against them and leftist dogma.
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