Principality of Vladimir Suzdal discussion

**matmohair1** · January 03, 2011, 07:22 AM

I was researching information about the army of the Principality of Vladimir Suzdal that may help in designing the faction's units.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir-Suzdal

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...3-%28en%29.png

Artwork by Igor Dzys - early Medieval Russia - 10th to 13th centuries

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I managed to get a copy of the book Battle of the Ice by Shcherbakov and Igor Dzys

- unfortunately I don't speak Russian, so I had to use GOOGLE translate and that is why, I think I made a few Mistakes,

sorry for my errors !

hopefully I hope that someone will correct me

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BONUS : early Russian warriors and varangians in the Roman army - 10th century - by G. Rava - good luck !

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**Esis** · January 03, 2011, 10:36 AM

wow...that's amazing. I think with these images Principality of Vladimir Suzdal become perfect more than other faction's.

I didn't know more about Principality of Vladimir Suzdal before. but now learned more things.
good work matmohair1

**megalitho** · January 03, 2011, 11:01 AM

formidable pictures! I like the helmets and the "Novgorod heavily spear militia" in nevsky´s army.

**Deep_Red** · January 03, 2011, 01:08 PM

Good work with those sources!
Are there plans yet for a roster of the faction?

**Scolot** · January 07, 2011, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by matmohair1

hopefully I hope that someone will correct me

Let me help you.

I'm Russian, I have russian edition of that book and speak English a little.

First picture:
1. Most appropriate as it is - 'Knyaz'
2. Heavy, not Heavily
3. Middle-armed lancer
4. Ok.
5. Russian 'охочие люди' (okhochie lyudi) is not english 'hunter'

'Okhochie lyudi' is like 'french legion' for one military compaing. So the translation could be 'Okhochie lyudi' archer
6. Vladimir infantry militiaman

Second picture:
1. Ok. (But in brackets should be 'Andrey Yaroslavich druzhina')
2. Dismouted druzhina noble heavy cavalryman
3. Light horse archer
4. Heavy, not heavily

5. Novgorod militia in field equipment

Third picture:
1. Trumpeter of Alexander Nevsky druzhina
2. Heavy

3. Ok
4. Ok
5. Prussian druzhina cavarlyman
6. Prussian infantry militiaman

Last picture
1. Voivode (or Knyaz). But note, that voivode and knyaz are not the same. Knyaz is like a King or Khagane, but Voivode is like General.
2. Ok.
3. Yes. HEAVY!

4. Ok.
5. Prussian druzhina cavarlyman
6. Heavy.
7. Crossbowman (Novgorod militia)